That's not the worst idea though; I figure if I ever need a few grand for bag seed I could just say "Oh this ? That's OG Runtz Pink Cookies Kush" and watch the money pile up LOL. Not really but it's still a funny thought
That's a fire clone . I am running a OGKB 2.1 ATM and says it's GSC x northern Cali Durban hit with dosi. She's a head wrecker.
Log insince we have a chemdog thread and no apparent og kush.... why not. i'm posting the assumed 2 stories of the origins of OG below, but please use this thread for any and all OG Kush related material. I'll dig around my pics and post what i've run, and what i know to be verified pics of OG. all about history in general, so this is pure fun for me.
i'm not an og expert, just a psychotic fiend for it. i've ran primarily just two cuts that have any "purity" to them.. and smoked most every og i could find. still do.
soooo. if i'm just plain wrong about anything, please let me know. we can hash it out right here and clear up some of our collective confusion. i've done my best to stay relevant and factual as possible.
1ST STORY (origins_tk)
"Triangle Kush and OG Kush , both seeds made in south Florida in 1991 in the same garage of Marty. The mother was called Emerald Triangle （in our circle from around ‘87） and that garage was stuffed wall to wall with it , A pack of Hindu Kush seeds that I bought from Neville , Amsterdam in 1989 was being tested after a pre sex test . One of those pre sexed Hindu Kush seeds created a bit of unseen pollen near the AC intake , that managed to make seeds thru out that entire 12 light garage . Those lbs where then sold by myself to a close buddy near Orlando , where he would then piece them out to his circle of friends . One of his buddies would find the Triangle Kush seed and another guy found the Kush seed that would later get named OG Kush once it made its way west to California . I’ve seen countless people claiming or insisting Chemdog is the parent to OG kush but with out a shadow of a doubt it’s not unless they share dna from years earlier or maybe from the Hindu Kush genetics from Neville in ‘89 . The Emerald Triangle strain was given to my old partner from an older head from the Washington area before I ever even knew he was a grower as I was buying pounds of it already to sell in 87-88 . OG is not Chemdog simple facts . Added fact , The Emerald Triangle leaned more towards a earthy spicy , flower smelling , sweet candy like terps and not chemi or fuel like at all . fuel or gassy terps must have came from the Hindu ."
copy and pasted from seedfinder, but thats the story from origins_tk. personally not believing this outright. mainly just see holes... and opportunities to capitalize on the confusion. late. it makes... too much sense for being clear as mud. but moving along.
2ND STORY (?)
on the adam dunn show this dave mann/dave richards character shared his... info. in a series of og origins podcasts where the hosts called and discussed OG with some of the growers involved. josh D and bubba berger, orgnkid, and several others were called in (their story is farther down the line, but was verified on-air).
S1E43 The TRUE History of OG Kush - The Adam Dunn Show
3 acres of underground bunkers and a hashplant backcross breeding program for the modern day 20% thc indica... maybe it's just me being an east coaster, but i've watched meth-amped SWAT teams raid houses over 1 gram of cannabis. 3 acres of underground stank in arizona... would expect everyone involved to either flip or stay in prison.
he (since this guy has two names... "he") claims OGK to be of hashplant thai afghan origin, more specifically a bx3 of hashplant thai afghan that rodelized (selfed). to me i agree with that lineage more, at least in theory. some of his other claims... are harder to believe.
MEH?
i've always known OG to be golf ball nug producing, moderate yielding, long internode spacing, and semi stretchy to very stretchy depending. swollen calyxs, pungent smell, and high calyx to leaf ratio.
the fire cut i had would outgrow everything untrained, and turn into spaghetti madness. in contrast, the hells and the ghost both grow sturdier, and shorter. sfv much like the fire, but i've yet to finish an sfv run. lost the cut before i had it rooted
tahoe and hells both always seemed very closely related, at least in end result (flower), but not in growth patterns or structure. can smell taste and feel the similarity very obviously, despite the claims of hells being crossed to blackberry.
thats about all i can say definitively on OGK traits without just guessing. haven't ran them all and never had the opportunity to sit down and sample them all.
as far as the origin stories, like most of our lore, a lot of it doesn't add up. i've just collected the data and posted it here. if i was to side with any part of this, i believe orgnkid josh d and bubba berger 100%. at least that part of the background is verifiable, and i was on that forum at that time where these cuts were sent out by orgnkid. was a lot like the gsc feeding frenzy, except it wasn'tbottlenecked trash. oops.
personally would love to see what info the pheno community has to share. i know at least one of our more prolific members here has "the" potential cut... and no i'm not telling.
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What do we know about the clone-only OG Kush?
Story #1:
OG Kush (the original cut) came from an S1 from in a bag of '91 Chemdawg in the Lake Tahoe area in 1996.
Story #2: (by Kailua kid from sierra seeds
In late '93 John from Grass Valley Ca. got the Chem Dog cut. He shared it with me, Jerry(cowboy) from Dibble Creek Ca. and Harold(Putz) from Sunset Beach Ca. Putz had a male he called the secret ingredient. It was a cross of Lemon Thai and an Old World Paki Kush. Putz bred the secret ingredient to the Chem Dog. The buds that came out of this cross were going around So. L.A. county in '95. Someone told Putz that Kush must be so good because it was mountain grown. Putz laughed and told him "this Kush is Ocean Grown Kush bro". The tag stuck and it became known as OG Kush. In the spring of '96 Putz married a girl from New Zealand. Before moving there he sent cuts of his OG to me and Bob(beans) in Salinas Ca. He gave all his P1 stock and all the remaining seed he had to Mike(mad dog) from Downey Ca. In late '96 Mike sold some seed to some guys in the Valley. That's where the San Fernando Valley cut of OG comes from. It's like the Original only more sat in pheno type. Mike sold a cut of the original to a guy in Orange county and that cut is called Larry today. It's still around Orange county. Mike sent one other cut of the original OG to a breeder in Europe. As far as I know he never let anyone else have it.
Jerry bred his Chem Dog cut to a Humboldt county indica boy. This was the beginning of his cubing proccess. At BX3 he got a pheno that had all the smell, taste and kick of the Chem Dog, but in a pure indica pheno. Jerry gave this plant to Bob. It became known as the West Coast Dog.
Bob bred this plant to my Old World Kush male. He took a male from that cross and bred it to the OG cut Putz had sent him. This is what made the original Bubba.
Lineage: ChemDawg x [Lemon Thai x Old World Paki Kush]
Info on the different cuttings of OG Kush:
* Tahoe: cut brough into the community by Swerve. The grower that Swerve got it from had sourced the cut in the Lake Tahoe area in the 90's.
* SFV: There are a million O.G cuts grown in the S.F.V, however the cut that goes by this name on these forums and in medical disp. came from forum member Swerve
* Raskal's OG: Another cut sourced in the San Fernando Valley. Cut was bought for several thousand dollers from ******* ***** members by a friends of forum member OGraskal
* Ghost: This cut came from ORGNKID, ORGNKID had sold a O.G cut to a Overgrow forum member named "Ghost" who further distributed the cut.
* Abusive: This cut was brought into the community by an overgrow member named "Abusive", believe it or not Abusive claimed to have got the cut through the rapper Snoop Dogg.
* Poison OG: Cut came from O.Gkushman, he grew it from seed found in a pound of O.G back in ‘96
* HA OG: Cut came from an commercial H.A room in Orange County, grown by the same crew that brought the Orange County Larry cut into the medical Disp.
* Larry: The Orange County Larry cut that is availble in the medical scene came from the same Orange County crew that the H.A O.G Kush came from
* Apothecary: O.G cut brought into the scene by the apothecary seed co's Brett. Brett got it from a high profile Medical MJ activist in L.A back in 1999
* Diablo: This = cut came from the R.D.C disp. In the San Fernando Valley
* P.R OG A.K.A Private Reserve O.G: Another O.G cut that ORGNKID brought into the scene. The cut was sold to Med patients as Private Reserve O.G through the now defunct C.A.L.M disp. of Malibu.
* Tripple OG: This cut came from ORGNKID. This cut is A.K.A Triple X/XXX O.G Kush. Triple O.G was popularly sold to medical patients by the now defunct C.A.L.M disp. of Malibu.
* SAC#2: Cut brought into the scene by forum member O.Gkushman, O.Gkushman got the cut from DJ Muggs.
* SAC#1 & SAC#3: #1 came from G-Thumb in the San Fernando Valley, #3 came from San Fernando Valley but is very popular in Santa Barbara and sometimes goes by the name “Purple O.G Kush”, the cut was brought into the scene by the owner of the now defunct Hortipharm in Santa Barbara
info from:SF
A timeline of the OG Kush family (on a side note)
(Leafly)
- Pre-1996: OG Kush’s mother plant is bred in Florida along with a strain called Bubba. Many people point to the Triangle Kush as the closest to that originally. High Times editor
- Danny Danko later theorizes Chemdog as the parent of both OG Kush and Sour Diesel.
- 1996: Matt Berger tells Josh Del Rosso the weed in Florida is better than the weed in Los Angeles. Del Rosso challenges him to return with some cuttings. He did. All but one of the OG Kush cuttings die. That cutting is the original, clone-only OG Kush plant that rocks Southern California. Matt and Josh cross another Florida import—’Bubba’—to the OG Kush to make “Bubba Kush” or what is now called Pre-98 Bubba Kush (aka “Kush Bubba,” or “KB.”)
- 1997: Following Josh D distributing the cut to a close circle of friends, B-Real eventually gets his hands on it from Wonderbrett founder Brett Feldman. That year, Josh D personally brought OG Kush to the Bay Area.
- 2001: Before the first large-scale indoor facilities coming online, demand for OG Kush in Los Angeles drives the price of OG Kush up to the highest ever confirmed prices of $8,000 per pound.
- 2004: OG Kush arrives in the Emerald Triangle. Variants are developed to acclimatize the strain for various climates. The most famous of the pack at the time was Mandelbrot’s OG Kush.
- 2006: DNA Genetics breeds what’s called Kosher Kush today. It will eventually become the first OG introduced to the European market in seed form, according to those that were a part of the Dutch cannabis scene at the time.
- 2008: Swerve from Cali Connection released the San Fernando Valley (SFV) cut in seed form. Cali Connection then released Larry OG and Tahoe OG not long after. Also in 2008, now-California Treasurer Fiona Ma valued the Humboldt outdoor crop at $8 billion. Some believe more than half that amount was OG.
- 2010: Kosher Kush wins Best Seed Company Indica at the Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam. Various local Master Kush variants had placed over the years, but this was the first true OG win. Kosher Kush wins Best Indica again in 2012, and again in 2015.
- 2015: Rapper Wiz Khalifa debuts a premium OG Kush type, Khalifa Kush. Jet Fuel OG comes out the same year.
- 2019: Fire Cut’s Fire OG wins Leafly’s Best OG Kush of California contest, besting Marathon OG from The Cure Co., Diablo OG from IC Collective, and three others.
