Evergreens water only soil

Evergreen

Showmethelowers
ok guys here it is this is how i mix up my soil. let me start by saying idk how you would break this down for smaller batches you will need to @ a math head for that lol

I start with a high grade organic soil that i can get locally. I buy this by the cubic yard this would equal 9 3 cubic ft bags of soil. just make sure your base soil is high in organic matter and well blended and mixed. You dont want rocky soil or soil with big chunks of wood or bark in it. a good soil will smell super earthy, be light and fluffy it will compact well when squeezed but should also break back apart easily not stay compacted.
I use down to earth nutrients with my soil as well as perlite and high quality fresh earthworm castings, and de as its high in silica.

I start with 1 cubic yard of base soil. minus about 25 gallons worth.
I then add 4 3 cu ft bags of perlite for a total of 12 cu ft of perlite.
next is the worm casting i add 50 lbs of worm casting (i source this local from a bait shop owner ive become good friends with)
4lbs of bone meal from DTE
1 lb Azomite DTE
4lbs alfalfa meal DTE
.5lbs of oystershell powder DTE
2lbs blood meal DTE
1.5 lbs langbeinite DTE
.25lbs diatomite hi silica (DE)
I mix all of this very thoroughly through out a 2 day time frame, I mix this up using a shovel and a rototiller to really blend it up i do this on top of a tarp so be careful if you use a rototiller not to hit the tarp. i then lightly water the mix fold the tarp and let it sit another day
I then store it in 50 gal trash cans it will fill 3 full cans ( i fill 2 cans full and two others half full!) and have a little left over the left over i toss on top of the veggie garden or top dress parts of my lawn.
I then take one of the half full cans and fill the rest of it with the base soil we set aside in the beginning to use for seedlings and clones.
the other half full can is used to put the soil in as i use it so when i harvest a plant i let its pot get very dry and slice up all the roots and grind it into the half full can then mix it once this can is full it becomes the next seedling and clone batch.

this makes roughly 180 gallons of soil.
 

High kev

In Bloom
ok guys here it is this is how i mix up my soil. let me start by saying idk how you would break this down for smaller batches you will need to @ a math head for that lol

I start with a high grade organic soil that i can get locally. I buy this by the cubic yard this would equal 9 3 cubic ft bags of soil. just make sure your base soil is high in organic matter and well blended and mixed. You dont want rocky soil or soil with big chunks of wood or bark in it. a good soil will smell super earthy, be light and fluffy it will compact well when squeezed but should also break back apart easily not stay compacted.
I use down to earth nutrients with my soil as well as perlite and high quality fresh earthworm castings, and de as its high in silica.

I start with 1 cubic yard of base soil. minus about 25 gallons worth.
I then add 4 3 cu ft bags of perlite for a total of 12 cu ft of perlite.
next is the worm casting i add 50 lbs of worm casting (i source this local from a bait shop owner ive become good friends with)
4lbs of bone meal from DTE
1 lb Azomite DTE
4lbs alfalfa meal DTE
.5lbs of oystershell powder DTE
2lbs blood meal DTE
1.5 lbs langbeinite DTE
.25lbs diatomite hi silica (DE)
I mix all of this very thoroughly through out a 2 day time frame, I mix this up using a shovel and a rototiller to really blend it up i do this on top of a tarp so be careful if you use a rototiller not to hit the tarp. i then lightly water the mix fold the tarp and let it sit another day
I then store it in 50 gal trash cans it will fill 3 full cans ( i fill 2 cans full and two others half full!) and have a little left over the left over i toss on top of the veggie garden or top dress parts of my lawn.
I then take one of the half full cans and fill the rest of it with the base soil we set aside in the beginning to use for seedlings and clones.
the other half full can is used to put the soil in as i use it so when i harvest a plant i let its pot get very dry and slice up all the roots and grind it into the half full can then mix it once this can is full it becomes the next seedling and clone batch.

this makes roughly 180 gallons of soil.
Thank u for this. Now Ican only pray my buds look like yours
 

CoB_nUt

In Bloom
Thank you E.G. Holy shit that is a lot of soil! I don't have much space.Definitely no room or yard(nosey neighbors) to mix or let even a modest amount of soil cook outdoors. I'd live to be able to compost as well. I think I'm going to experiment with a decent bagsoil or two,some ewc,perlite(on hand)or pumice, turface and mykos with some Megacrop sprinkled in. I saw a fairly simple water only soil recipe By Budzbuddha on RIU. I'd like to experiment before buying a bunch stuff needed for LOS....base mix-mineral mix-etc.

I'd like to phenohunt & test as many as I could get on my 3x3 tray.
THAT should scratch my experiment itch for water only soil and lead me into LOS arena. I really want to get a worm bin started,free black gold basically.

Thank you E.G. much appreciated.???
 

Evergreen

Showmethelowers
Thank you E.G. Holy shit that is a lot of soil! I don't have much space.Definitely no room or yard(nosey neighbors) to mix or let even a modest amount of soil cook outdoors. I'd live to be able to compost as well. I think I'm going to experiment with a decent bagsoil or two,some ewc,perlite(on hand)or pumice, turface and mykos with some Megacrop sprinkled in. I saw a fairly simple water only soil recipe By Budzbuddha on RIU. I'd like to experiment before buying a bunch stuff needed for LOS....base mix-mineral mix-etc.

I'd like to phenohunt & test as many as I could get on my 3x3 tray.
THAT should scratch my experiment itch for water only soil and lead me into LOS arena. I really want to get a worm bin started,free black gold basically.

Thank you E.G. much appreciated.???
no problem bro,? like i said maybe someone can break down the amounts for a lesser amount.
do you fish? i get tons of casting free from a local bait shop they used to clean em out and just toss them, and they are a small ma and pop shop so they feed and care for their worms pretty well.
 

JL2G

Jesse Loves 2 Grow
Staff member
Moderator
Q-36 Space Modulator
Thank you E.G. Holy shit that is a lot of soil! I don't have much space.Definitely no room or yard(nosey neighbors) to mix or let even a modest amount of soil cook outdoors. I'd live to be able to compost as well. I think I'm going to experiment with a decent bagsoil or two,some ewc,perlite(on hand)or pumice, turface and mykos with some Megacrop sprinkled in. I saw a fairly simple water only soil recipe By Budzbuddha on RIU. I'd like to experiment before buying a bunch stuff needed for LOS....base mix-mineral mix-etc.

I'd like to phenohunt & test as many as I could get on my 3x3 tray.
THAT should scratch my experiment itch for water only soil and lead me into LOS arena. I really want to get a worm bin started,free black gold basically.

Thank you E.G. much appreciated.???
You could mix a single tote full if you wanted, I can do some math for ya if needed. I like math. Lol

I keep a number of totes that I cook my soil in.
The 18 gallon size, keeps the weight manageable.
I like to keep em under a shelf in the garage with dates listed. My garage stays 40 -80* year rnd.
Typically ive got 8 to 10 of the totes about 3/4 full in various stages of readieness.
As plants get chopped I recycle their soil into a newly emptied tote, add a bit of amending based on how the last plant performed, mix it, wet it, date it, and shelve it.

Imho its better to not let em be outside as it keeps bugs access limited and the temps etc more consistant.
I've learned the hard way to not bring soil in from outdoors without treatment for bugs. Lol.
 

Dankman_420

In Bloom
You could mix a single tote full if you wanted, I can do some math for ya if needed. I like math. Lol

I keep a number of totes that I cook my soil in.
The 18 gallon size, keeps the weight manageable.
I like to keep em under a shelf in the garage with dates listed. My garage stays 40 -80* year rnd.
Typically ive got 8 to 10 of the totes about 3/4 full in various stages of readieness.
As plants get chopped I recycle their soil into a newly emptied tote, add a bit of amending based on how the last plant performed, mix it, wet it, date it, and shelve it.

Imho its better to not let em be outside as it keeps bugs access limited and the temps etc more consistant.
I've learned the hard way to not bring soil in from outdoors without treatment for bugs. Lol.
Does the soil continue to cook in your totes at 40°. I'm getting ready to mix up a batch to go into trash cans in my garage. But it's still cold as hell here.
I've only mixed in summer time. Thanks
 

Evergreen

Showmethelowers
You could mix a single tote full if you wanted, I can do some math for ya if needed. I like math. Lol

I keep a number of totes that I cook my soil in.
The 18 gallon size, keeps the weight manageable.
I like to keep em under a shelf in the garage with dates listed. My garage stays 40 -80* year rnd.
Typically ive got 8 to 10 of the totes about 3/4 full in various stages of readieness.
As plants get chopped I recycle their soil into a newly emptied tote, add a bit of amending based on how the last plant performed, mix it, wet it, date it, and shelve it.

Imho its better to not let em be outside as it keeps bugs access limited and the temps etc more consistant.
I've learned the hard way to not bring soil in from outdoors without treatment for bugs. Lol.
I should add i also agree not to store them outside my soil is only outside for about a total of 2-3 days while i mix it all up sometimes its faster than that. I also store my cans in the garage
i use these 1582471746455.png i dont carry full big ass garbage cans lol
 

JL2G

Jesse Loves 2 Grow
Staff member
Moderator
Q-36 Space Modulator
Does the soil continue to cook in your totes at 40°. I'm getting ready to mix up a batch to go into trash cans in my garage. But it's still cold as hell here.
I've only mixed in summer time. Thanks
I've had no issues with it at those temps. But it's not really ever that low in there for long. That's just the lowest I've seen it in the garage.
More often it's in the 55* range garage winter temps for me as its insulated and built into a hill under the house.
So I personally couldn't say 100% what a long term exposure would do at 40*.
But according to data as long as it doesn't freeze things will be totally fine.
Actions would continue to happen I'm sure, but could likely be slowed a fair bit.
 

Dankman_420

In Bloom
I've had no issues with it at those temps. But it's not really ever that low in there for long. That's just the lowest I've seen it in the garage.
More often it's in the 55* range garage winter temps for me as its insulated and built into a hill under the house.
So I personally couldn't say 100% what a long term exposure would do at 40*.
But according to data as long as it doesn't freeze things will be totally fine.
Actions would continue to happen I'm sure, but could likely be slowed a fair bit.
Thanks for the response. I'll be mixing it up next weekend regardless of the temp. It's calling for highs then in upper 20's. But the garage is insulated. So at least it'll be slightly warmer :) Gotta get back to water only. These bottles are a pain to deal with :LOL:
 

Evergreen

Showmethelowers
Thanks for the response. I'll be mixing it up next weekend regardless of the temp. It's calling for highs then in upper 20's. But the garage is insulated. So at least it'll be slightly warmer :) Gotta get back to water only. These bottles are a pain to deal with :LOL:
Do you have a seedling heat mat? If I make soil in the winter I keep it warm by putting a seedling mat in the middle of the soil.
 
Thanks I might do that with a tote. Great idea to get me going earlier. But my base is 9 full bags of roots organics. Will be a few large trash cans. I really dig your threads btw. Always learn something new from them :)
I'm putting together my amendments too. This is very sikilar to subcools mix. He recommends adding a little humic acid to the water to help encourage the process
 
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