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Fr3nzy 229

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Looking into getting new lights. Was thinking hps but hear alot of good things about the samsung boards. Was looking at 2 of these and use my blurple to supplement. Also wondering if the 600w spider farmer would be ok for 2 mother plants?
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Yay or any

Also liked idea of heat from hps for winter but if I go hps I will probably need to run another 20 amp to room.
 
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Looking into getting new lights. Was thinking hps but hear alot of good things about the samsung boards. Was looking at 2 of these and use my blurple to supplement. Also wondering if the 600w spider farmer would be ok for 2 mother plants?
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Yay or any

Also liked idea of heat from hps for winter but if I go hps I will probably need to run another 20 amp to room.
That looks like a decent for the price range.
Watts isnt best comparison, i went from HPS & MH combos to LED. Everyone said they run cheaper, well i ended up with 988 watts from the wall (4 @ 288's) to replace my HID's.
 
Fr3nzy 229

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They make them in larger sizes I have a friend using the spider farmer 4000( 4 boards & 2 drivers @ 240w.) each it performs good
Well I went with a 2k led and it's ok but it's a insane hotspot in middle wish I would of done 3 600s or 2 1000s it makes for better light distribution. I think the 2k I have pulls around 400w in veg and bloom. Sidnt know if these would help give the kick I need for flower or just go hps?
 
Fr3nzy 229

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That looks like a decent for the price range.
Watts isnt best comparison, i went from HPS & MH combos to LED. Everyone said they run cheaper, well i ended up with 988 watts from the wall (4 @ 288's) to replace my HID's.
Is a bit but what was the hids running? Also just read your journal. Has the less heat with the leds been better for you?
 
Gentlemancorpse 1.3K

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What size tent are you running Frenzy? I run an SF2000 in a 2x4 right now ... it was running solo for a bit but I didn't find it strong enough so I added a small HLG v65 in there as well. Decent light though, buds have been pretty solid for LED. Definitely not as much penetration as my CMH.
 
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In regards to the qb panels, if you're looking for the coverage area, I've done testing with a few different brands etc.
They all seem to have lost about 50% of their photon power about 6" outside of the panels footprint. The leds on them are very directional with their light output.
With the Samsung diode having panels, around 35 a square foot of wattage is a really good number to be at for flower running the lights about 2 ish ft above canopy imho.
I run a 315 cmh in there as well with my led cobs and qb panels, I've ran numbers off of them too.
Light penetration between all of them is pretty damn close imho.
I have yet to pick up some fancier testing equipment, but from real world bud testing I think I like all of them mixed together the best. Lol.

A number of observations from side by side grows between the same plants multiple times under different primary lighting.

Growth rates seem the same for all 3 types of leds and cmh I'm running. They can all grow some really nice plants.

The plants under the qb's seem to be a slight bit leafier plants, but still really solid buds.

The cmh plants look a slight bit frostier, but smoke the same as the rest.
The cob buds tend to have more density to the buds, slightly smaller, but they go thunk in the jar when you drop em. Lol.
 
Fr3nzy 229

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Room is 3.5x9.5x7 growing are is 3.5x5 atm. But I'm getting ready to make more room...like a 10x10 room and use this room for mothers. Probably do another run or 2 in this room and could use up to 3.5x7x7.
 
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Guess I should add I'm not going to veg for as long next time. 50"+ plants take up a lot of room lol
 
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Well I went with a 2k led and it's ok but it's a insane hotspot in middle wish I would of done 3 600s or 2 1000s it makes for better light distribution. I think the 2k I have pulls around 400w in veg and bloom. Sidnt know if these would help give the kick I need for flower or just go hps?
I'm not the sharpest when it comes to less but I've discovered that you have to go with what the light actually pulls at the wall not what they claim I, then figure out your square footage & allow for about 30w. per square foot of grow area Mars hydro has a TS series light out that uses alistar white light panels I've seen a few test grows that show promise e-bay has them I finally hacked a blurple & converted it to cob for my latest led light & it went pretty smooth for 480w. of cobs
 
Fr3nzy 229

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I'm not the sharpest when it comes to less but I've discovered that you have to go with what the light actually pulls at the wall not what they claim I, then figure out your square footage & allow for about 30w. per square foot of grow area Mars hydro has a TS series light out that uses alistar white light panels I've seen a few test grows that show promise e-bay has them I finally hacked a blurple & converted it to cob for my latest led light & it went pretty smooth for 480w. of cobs
Ya its 2k but pulls around 400w when veg and bloom setting is on. It's around 75k lux at 18 inches. I know lux meter dont work right on led but it light burned plant around 77k lux. So I think its close.
 
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Ya its 2k but pulls around 400w when veg and bloom setting is on. It's around 75k lux at 18 inches. I know lux meter dont work right on led but it light burned plant around 77k lux. So I think its close.
I'm not exact but I think my cob light pulls about 510w. at the wall 480w. of meanwell drivers & 30w. power source to run the cooling fans
 
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Room is 3.5x9.5x7 growing are is 3.5x5 atm. But I'm getting ready to make more room...like a 10x10 room and use this room for mothers. Probably do another run or 2 in this room and could use up to 3.5x7x7.
That's a big room! A 10x10 room is 100 sq ft. That would be a recommended 3500 w of QB LED ... that's 35 of those SpiderFarmer 1000s! SFs watts at the wall are always 10% of whatever it says in the name. I'm not sure if you intend to use the whole room, but you'll need a lot of light in there, and with that much space I wouldn't worry too much about heat, decent circulation should keep you in a good place.

Personally, in your shoes, I'd go HID. It will cost a fortune to light 100 sq ft canopy with LED.
 
Fr3nzy 229

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Also want to dabble with hydro in the near future and would section the 10x10 up. Kinda interested in a sog. But I havnt even harvested a plant yet so a lot is speculation. Besides some new lights for flower.
 
Gentlemancorpse 1.3K

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Ya I thought room was huge then I started putting shit in it lol, also grew retarded big plants for such small area....live and learn lol. 3 tents in a 7x7 has to be tight as fuck.
It sure is, but it's the only way I can have plants in so many stages at once.

And ya, I started with a 32"x32" tent when I got back into growing and thought I'd be satisfied .. hoo boy was I wrong lol
 
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