thanks for the info - 2.5 is a long veg time but not for what your doing - have heard of a 6mo veg time - also there was a mother plant that was a "mother" for some 18 months understand if you are going for real long veg times believe you need to feed it a bit different personally I like a 30-45 veg time the again some like a 3 week veg time,veg times can be in relation to one's grow space and 100% staiva strains (panama red, ect)Well...I held them in small pots to hold them off, broke up the rootball when I transplanted...lowered temps etc. to slow them down...and now...it's been about 2.5 months?