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JollyPete

In Bloom



And you can shove all your wars and politics
They never seem to teach us anything
Power and greed aren't the way I get my kicks but to each his own I wish you'd just go home
And you can shove all your goddamn religion and rules
Do to others as they do unto you
Intolerance and bigotry are practiced by the fools
Who cast their stones
I wish they'd all go home
And get fucked
 

UncleB

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Been deep diving w/ Gregg. Can't hold on 'til Friday.



Have to admit that other than the radio, my only exposure to Mr. Allman was via the late night variety shows of the 80's & 90's.
Can't claim to have seen this one when it aired, but am hoping you're entertained by Cher's dance routine in the 2nd half of the video....???

 

Hugh Jass

Canna-Mycologist
I've heard you can't be an Allman Brothers Band fan if you're not a Dickey Betts fan. In fact, I've heard it many dozens of times. Always from Dickey Betts fans.
I believe an ABB fan can hold both love and hate for Dickey Betts in their heart simultaneously, like opposing ideas. :yinyang:

I clearly remember me and my pals calling them The Allmost Brothers Band from the mid to late 70's and on, which seems a tad uncharitable now!
 

Amos Otis

Weed Legend
Have to admit that other than the radio, my only exposure to Mr. Allman was via the late night variety shows of the 80's & 90's.
Can't claim to have seen this one when it aired, but am hoping you're entertained by Cher's dance routine in the 2nd half of the video....???



Gregg's band - ABB AD [after Duane] - disowned him for a good while [until their need for money forced them to reconsider] after he testified against his and the band's coke supplier who was a band roadie. I read somewhere that his hookup with Sonny Bono's lesser half was both an effort to clean up and move his career to a larger mainstream audience. If true, both were catastrophic failures. I've seen the clip once. Like Gregg, I tried to forget it ever happened.

I believe an ABB fan can hold both love and hate for Dickey Betts in their heart simultaneously, like opposing ideas. :yinyang:

I clearly remember me and my pals calling them The Allmost Brothers Band from the mid to late 70's and on, which seems a tad uncharitable now!

Last night I made an earnest attempt to change my mind about Betts with no success. In fact, it reaffirmed my decades long opinion with even more conviction. The guitar solo of Rambling Man - which is basically a series of the same mind numbing one lick 4 bar repetition that makes my head want to explode - is pretty much all his solos with a different bend here and a reverse there. The reformed band actually fired him in 1990, and he sued them, of course. From wikipedia:
"Concerns arose over the increasing loudness of Allman Brothers shows, which were largely centered on Betts.[120] "It had ceased to be a band—everything had to be based around what Dickey was playing", said Allman.[122] Pearson, struggling with tinnitus, left as a result.[123] Butch Trucks phoned his nephew, Derek Trucks, to join the band for their thirtieth anniversary tour.[124] Anger boiled over within the group towards Betts, which led to all original members sending him a letter, informing him of their intentions to tour without him.[125] Betts responded by hiring a lawyer and suing the group, which led to a permanent divorce.[122]

About 20 years too late, but better than never. Here's one of Dickey's more inventive solos:

 

UncleB

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Gregg's band - ABB AD [after Duane] - disowned him for a good while [until their need for money forced them to reconsider] after he testified against his and the band's coke supplier who was a band roadie. I read somewhere that his hookup with Sonny Bono's lesser half was both an effort to clean up and move his career to a larger mainstream audience. If true, both were catastrophic failures. I've seen the clip once. Like Gregg, I tried to forget it ever happened.



Last night I made an earnest attempt to change my mind about Betts with no success. In fact, it reaffirmed my decades long opinion with even more conviction. The guitar solo of Rambling Man - which is basically a series of the same mind numbing one lick 4 bar repetition that makes my head want to explode - is pretty much all his solos with a different bend here and a reverse there. The reformed band actually fired him in 1990, and he sued them, of course. From wikipedia:
"Concerns arose over the increasing loudness of Allman Brothers shows, which were largely centered on Betts.[120] "It had ceased to be a band—everything had to be based around what Dickey was playing", said Allman.[122] Pearson, struggling with tinnitus, left as a result.[123] Butch Trucks phoned his nephew, Derek Trucks, to join the band for their thirtieth anniversary tour.[124] Anger boiled over within the group towards Betts, which led to all original members sending him a letter, informing him of their intentions to tour without him.[125] Betts responded by hiring a lawyer and suing the group, which led to a permanent divorce.[122]

About 20 years too late, but better than never. Here's one of Dickey's more inventive solos:


Definitely think I've heard that riff before.... ?
 

Hugh Jass

Canna-Mycologist
Gregg's band - ABB AD [after Duane] - disowned him for a good while [until their need for money forced them to reconsider] after he testified against his and the band's coke supplier who was a band roadie. I read somewhere that his hookup with Sonny Bono's lesser half was both an effort to clean up and move his career to a larger mainstream audience. If true, both were catastrophic failures. I've seen the clip once. Like Gregg, I tried to forget it ever happened.



Last night I made an earnest attempt to change my mind about Betts with no success. In fact, it reaffirmed my decades long opinion with even more conviction. The guitar solo of Rambling Man - which is basically a series of the same mind numbing one lick 4 bar repetition that makes my head want to explode - is pretty much all his solos with a different bend here and a reverse there. The reformed band actually fired him in 1990, and he sued them, of course. From wikipedia:
"Concerns arose over the increasing loudness of Allman Brothers shows, which were largely centered on Betts.[120] "It had ceased to be a band—everything had to be based around what Dickey was playing", said Allman.[122] Pearson, struggling with tinnitus, left as a result.[123] Butch Trucks phoned his nephew, Derek Trucks, to join the band for their thirtieth anniversary tour.[124] Anger boiled over within the group towards Betts, which led to all original members sending him a letter, informing him of their intentions to tour without him.[125] Betts responded by hiring a lawyer and suing the group, which led to a permanent divorce.[122]

About 20 years too late, but better than never. Here's one of Dickey's more inventive solos:


I get it - for me, the only truly top shelf things any of them did were things they did when they were playing in ABB with Duane leading.

I love ABB's early music - it was different and hopeful and fiery and smart, but the experiment was over, for me at least, when Duane was killed.
He was not only the heart, but the brain of the beast, too, it would seem... The catalyst and the lightning rod.

Sorry to have put a burr under your saddle with Mr. B.
 

Hugh Jass

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Amos Otis

Weed Legend
I get it - for me, the only truly top shelf things any of them did were things they did when they were playing in ABB with Duane leading.

I love ABB's early music - it was different and hopeful and fiery and smart, but the experiment was over, for me at least, when Duane was killed.
He was not only the heart, but the brain of the beast, too, it would seem... The catalyst and the lightning rod.

Sorry to have put a burr under your saddle with Mr. B.

I agree 100 %. Gregg had a few good tunes down the road, but not that many - one especially I'm waiting to post on 'Blues Friday'. As far as a burr in saddle...lol...not at all, amigo. It was a great opportunity to air an opinion I've argued for years with the most passionate Dickey Betts fans. My former brother-in-law for one. We got along great until the day I showed him the 4 note lick in Rambling Man that Betts repeated for an eternity. I called it - and still do - the worst guitar recorded guitar performance in history - an exaggeration for sure, but not by much. He barely acknowledged me after the conversation, even when I would hum a few bars at in law family gatherings.
 

Amos Otis

Weed Legend
You may get a kick out of this link. (Of special interest to me is the photo essay sent in from Macon, which I live close to.)

The story is Duane had just scored, unbeknownst to the photographer, and the band was amused.

That's a great read. Betts is quoted as saying Duane had just copped a joint. Butch Trucks said it was something else. That particular story begins at 2:20.

 
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