Medical Grow, Multiple Tents

[DavidDellaRocco]

Hey there.

So a brief introduction. I'm a licensed personal medical grower. I have a 49 indoor plant count limit, though I am usually never near the limit unless I have clones going. I'm just a little too far north, and I have too many neighbors overlooking my place to even bother having an outdoor limit added to my license.

I'm running several tents:
6x6 (veg/bloom), 5x3 (veg/bloom), 4x4 (drying), 4x2 (veg/bloom), 3x2 (moms)

I have about 3000W or so I believe in QB style LEDs and a couple blurples tossed in the mix. I dropped HID several years ago and I haven't looked back since. I had my fun with it, but it was time to move on.

So here are my active grow tents.

Here is my 5x3 (actually 60"x30" but I rounded up to 3') I have three old moms that were getting tired in their old fabric bags. I figured I'd transplant and veg them out, get them greened back up a little, and then flower them. From left to right, LSD, Zombie Diesel, Zombie Virus
10 gallon bags, organic. Hopefully this and my SCROG are my last dirt runs though. Dirt is just too dirty and my back can't take being hunched over the bathtub mixing 50 or 60 gallons at a time anymore.




Here is my current Hempy bucket run. 6x6

I will probably be going back to Hempy from now on, or a mod of it at least in all my full grow tents, maybe even my mom's too. I used it years ago. I liked it. I moved here, and it's like I forgot everything and went back to dirt. Why, I have no idea. But I'm back doing it the way I like it. Simple and effective, lightweight but powerful. I've always had good results with Hempy.
Triple Cheese, FlowerBomb Kush, and LSD are the strains here.


And finally, here is my SCROG tent (4x2). This plant needs a serious haircut tonight I think. I normally just tie them down and then let them go so trying to plan a SCROG has been a new learning experience. I figured I'd make a net and see what happens. Any advice is welcome. LSD is the strain here.


In the Hempys (6x6), I am using Holland Secret 3 part, Hygrozyme, HyShield, Remo Nature's Candy and Orca Myco & Bennies for nutrients and additives. They seem to be a good combination.

In the dirt pots (5x3 & 4x2), I am still using the Hygrozyme, HyShield, Nature's Candy and Orca Myco & Bennies, but I instead use Alaska Fish and BioThrive 'organic' liquid bottles.
The soil has EWC, and compost, extra perlite and Gaia Green general dry amendment.


P.S. Sorry no bud porn right now. Just had some crappy timing and a perfect storm with work, landlords and some cloning failures. Unfortunately, everything is vegging right now. But follow along and there will be buds soon enough.

 

[Uncle Rom]

Hey there.

So a brief introduction. I'm a licensed personal medical grower. I have a 49 indoor plant count limit, though I am usually never near the limit unless I have clones going. I'm just a little too far north, and I have too many neighbors overlooking my place to even bother having an outdoor limit added to my license.

I'm running several tents:
6x6 (veg/bloom), 5x3 (veg/bloom), 4x4 (drying), 4x2 (veg/bloom), 3x2 (moms)

I have about 3000W or so I believe in QB style LEDs and a couple blurples tossed in the mix. I dropped HID several years ago and I haven't looked back since. I had my fun with it, but it was time to move on.

So here are my active grow tents.

Here is my 5x3 (actually 60"x30" but I rounded up to 3') I have three old moms that were getting tired in their old fabric bags. I figured I'd transplant and veg them out, get them greened back up a little, and then flower them. From left to right, LSD, Zombie Diesel, Zombie Virus
10 gallon bags, organic. Hopefully this and my SCROG are my last dirt runs though. Dirt is just too dirty and my back can't take being hunched over the bathtub mixing 50 or 60 gallons at a time anymore.
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Here is my current Hempy bucket run. 6x6
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I will probably be going back to Hempy from now on, or a mod of it at least in all my full grow tents, maybe even my mom's too. I used it years ago. I liked it. I moved here, and it's like I forgot everything and went back to dirt. Why, I have no idea. But I'm back doing it the way I like it. Simple and effective, lightweight but powerful. I've always had good results with Hempy.
Triple Cheese, FlowerBomb Kush, and LSD are the strains here.


And finally, here is my SCROG tent (4x2). This plant needs a serious haircut tonight I think. I normally just tie them down and then let them go so trying to plan a SCROG has been a new learning experience. I figured I'd make a net and see what happens. Any advice is welcome. LSD is the strain here.
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In the Hempys (6x6), I am using Holland Secret 3 part, Hygrozyme, HyShield, Remo Nature's Candy and Orca Myco & Bennies for nutrients and additives. They seem to be a good combination.

In the dirt pots (5x3 & 4x2), I am still using the Hygrozyme, HyShield, Nature's Candy and Orca Myco & Bennies, but I instead use Alaska Fish and BioThrive 'organic' liquid bottles.
The soil has EWC, and compost, extra perlite and Gaia Green general dry amendment.


P.S. Sorry no bud porn right now. Just had some crappy timing and a perfect storm with work, landlords and some cloning failures. Unfortunately, everything is vegging right now. But follow along and there will be buds soon enough.

I’m guessing your a Canuck. Where you still getting biothrive? I want some

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

I’m guessing your a Canuck. Where you still getting biothrive? I want some

Yes, that I am lol! I bought a 4l jug each of Grow and Bloom about a year and a bit ago? Maybe a little more. I can't remember who it was, but it was a Canadian company. I'll see if I can't find out who it was. I've bought from so many places and I am terrible with keeping records, so no promises.

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

I’m guessing your a Canuck. Where you still getting biothrive? I want some

OK. I remember now. As soon as I saw the name it clicked. It was Canadian Garden Supply. I bought a bunch of stuff at the same time. But yeah, it's no longer in stock it seems.

 

[Uncle Rom]

Ya shoot eh. Can’t get maxibloom or biothrive these days. Shame. I like using em. Life hack over lol

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

Ya shoot eh. Can’t get maxibloom or biothrive these days. Shame. I like using em. Life hack over lol

I have sent an inquiry to GH about it, so hopefully I can maybe get the word directly from them what's going on in the next day or two.
I thought MaxiBloom was still readily available though.....hmmmm

 

[Uncle Rom]

I have sent an inquiry to GH about it, so hopefully I can maybe get the word directly from them what's going on in the next day or two.
I thought MaxiBloom was still readily available though.....hmmmm

It jumped from 20ish to like 60bucks on amazon but maybe I just need to hunt around. No grow shops where I’m at

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

It jumped from 20ish to like 60bucks on amazon but maybe I just need to hunt around. No grow shops where I’m at

Aaaah, ok. Yeah I can't find it in Canada anywhere. I got curious when you mentioned it, went hunting, and found nothing lol! I didn't try Amazon though just actual grow shops/suppliers

 

[Uncle Rom]

Aaaah, ok. Yeah I can't find it in Canada anywhere. I got curious when you mentioned it, went hunting, and found nothing lol! I didn't try Amazon though just actual grow shops/suppliers

Might just overpay and get me one more bag for ol time sake while I can get it I guess lol. I liked the bio thrive cause it drives the ph down. Found it useful

 

[GhestViewingLimit]

Cool double scrog frame! Keep up the good work cant wait to see more!

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

Might just overpay and get me one more bag for ol time sake while I can get it I guess lol. I liked the bio thrive cause it drives the ph down. Found it useful

So, apparently I can't get it in Canada right now because Health Canada is blocking the importation of "anything organic". This is according to the GH rep that got back to me. I assume he meant anything organic, non-essential, and not a food because food still comes in.
The line still exists, so it may be a matter of hunting it down. But we won't see it up here unless we find someone that still has old stock.
Not sure why it's jumped up in price down in the US though.

And I agree about the pH. It seems to get my solution between 6.3-6.6 all the time, no pH Down.

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

Cool double scrog frame! Keep up the good work cant wait to see more!

Thanks man! It seems to be working good so far. Fingers crossed. But the plant is really starting to push up on it.

It's actually hanging on ratchet ropes so I can move it up or down depending on the size of pots underneath it. I may have to actually tie it down to the bottom tent frame lol

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

A little update :

The large tent will be going into flower at this lights off, 6 a.m. this morning.
I defoliated a fair bit a few days ago to let the tops get nice and bushy and thick.
Hopefully by the time the plants stretch and grow out, they should fill up 24ft² out of my 6'x6'. If they get a little bigger than that, I have a spare 600W kit sitting in the closet that I can toss up, but I have 1200W potential draw hanging above them right now, running at 65%. So I have room to run them hotter. 24ft² and 2 cranked out 600W kits would be 50W/ft² as is.

Lights:
- 2x600W '800 piece' kit (One V1 and one V2)
- 1x600W '800 piece' kit spare, on standby

Summary of my 600W kits' diode configurations:

One set of V1 lm561c 2700K
Two sets of V2 LM301B 3000K + 660nm

Each individual 300W board has 800 diodes, 1600 diodes to each kit.




The 5x3 tent is gonna be flipped in a night or two, hopefully. I defoliated all the girls in there as well but a day behind the large tent. I like to give them a minimum of 3 days recovery after defoliating before any major changes like flipping to flower.
I probably took about 1.5-2 lbs of leaf off all the girls in all the tents.

Lights :
- 3x240W 2x288 kits
V2 LM301B 3000K + 660nm + UV + IR


The 4x2 SCROG is going well, but she will be a week or so at minimum before flipping, longer even, I bet.
She was looking like Cousin It there for a while.......


....so I defoliated her, and then pinned her down a bit more. I'll kick on the HLG100's in that tent soon as the plant is growing out of the cone of light of the 240W 2x288 kit. I'll probably run this tent about 300-320W, so about 37.5-40W/ft²

Lights:
- 2xHLG100 V1 lm561c (100W each) 3000K

- 1x240W 2x288 V2 LM301B 3000K + 660nm + UV + IR



My mom tent:

Lights :
- 1xHLG100 (100W) V1 lm561c 3000K
- 2x50W Blurple UFOs

Triple Cheese (left) and FlowerBomb Kush (right) are the two bigger plants. Zombie Diesel, Zombie Virus and LSD make up the little ones.
If I have a hole in the large tent that needs filling I may toss that bigger FlowerBomb Kush on the right in with its 'children' and then take some cuts off it, start a new mom, and let her have her "day in the Sun"

Buds coming soon.

 

[Frimpong]

Looking awesome man ?

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

Looking awesome man ?

Thanks man! Yeah this round feels solid. Just gotta keep her cruisin' like this.......

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

14 days into flower :

6x6 tent (6x4 being fully used)
Hempy buckets
875-900ppm
943.2 Watts
39.3W/ft²
Avg daily VPD : ~0.90
Avg Daily Temp : 23°C
6ml/gallon Holland Secret Bloom
3ml/gallon Holland Secret Micro
3ml/gallon Holland Secret Grow
3ml/gallon Sipco HyShield
9ml/gallon Sipco Hygrozyme
6ml/gallon Remo Nature's Candy
Orca Beneficials every 3rd or 4th fertigation

I defoliated shortly before triggering then I had no option but to do it again at one week. And now......I have to do it again lmao! F******k! I think I'll give them until day 21, then do a rather heavy defoliation and that will be it.



13 days into flower :
5x3 tent
481.5 Watts
38.5W/ft²
675-700ppm every watering to leech off
Avg daily VPD : ~0.95
Avg Daily Temp : 23°C
3ml/gallon Sipco HyShield
9ml/gallon Sipco Hygrozyme
6ml/gallon Remo Nature's Candy
6ml/gallon BioThrive Bloom
Orca at ~1/3 recommended, every watering

Also heavily defoliated but starting to fill back in again. Again, day 21 will be my mark for a final defoliation.
I figure I'm jamming enough carbs into these plants, defoliation won't even slow then down, and it will be very beneficial to reduce humidity and drive VPD up.




Still vegging, but getting very close :
4x2 tent
290.7 Watts
36.3W/ft²
675-700ppm every watering to leech off
Avg daily VPD : ~0.90
Avg Daily Temp : 23°C
3ml/gallon Sipco HyShield
9ml/gallon Sipco Hygrozyme
6ml/gallon Remo Nature's Candy
6ml/gallon BioThrive Grow
Orca at ~1/3 recommended, every watering

This plant is already taking a full watering every two nights. I can't wait until flowering, holy shit lol!! Kill me now lol!
I've been trying the outer edges down, then the next night I release them, give them a few days, then do it again. It's keeping those outer shoots longer, with a slight bowl shape to the plant, but also keeping the inside of the plant from falling too far behind. It seems to be working very well. I figure if I can keep those outer edges dominant, but still keep the race for light close, when I trigger and tie down those outers, the inside should pop up nice and even with them.

I can't see too much more time being dedicated to veg with this plant, maybe a day or two? Any SCROGger's advice is welcome.




Currently well into the process of switching entirely over to Hempy, even with my mom tent, but of course, this round my dirt is doing very well. Figures.

Anyways, more to come.......

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

6x6 tent
23 days
Substantial defoliation tonight

Before :



After :







Had a foul rotten egg smell in one of the buckets the other night. Did a bacterial flush. I hit it with straight, pH'd tap water, no dechlorination and power dumped thru it. Then I refilled it with a healthy dose of fresh stuff and beneficial bacteria. It seems to have helped. No more rotten stench. The plant in the bucket doesn't seem to give a shit, no signs of deficiency or lag or anything, but I imagine it could have gotten worse.


5x3 tent
Day 22
Doing very well......due for defoliation 'tonight'



The plant in the middle is Zombie Diesel (technically Zombie Virus but a very different phenotype that has zero grape flavor, just raw fuel). It is always the biggest plant in the room.....always. I'm very pleased with these moms I nearly tossed out. These cougars are lovin' life right now.


I think this plant (below) in the 4x2 is on day 6 or 7 of flower now, but I was so busy I forgot to mark it on my calendar. So I'm not exactly sure.

But it's doing pretty good. Almost filled right out, I may do an early pruning/defoliation to keep excess stretching down and keep the 'noding tight on the shoots I wanna keep.

It's sucking back a gallon and a half a day, plus now. I've just been been bottom feeding it lol....fuuuuudge!



And I got my spare/drying tent acting as a veg tent now for the big tents, so I guess, add a 4x4 tent to the mix.



More updates to come.........

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

So I found a design flaw in my Hempy buckets that I didn't think of. The last few days the rotten eggs were out of control. All my black buckets (from a previous DWC setup) with inverted drains (used for sight tubes) were reeking to high heaven of rotten eggs. My white buckets with the LSD plants didn't reek, and they even get watered fewer times, and sit longer, and they smell fine. So I put two and two together.....

I concluded using inverted beer taps instead of just a 3/4" hole in the side of the bucket was preventing oxygen drawing into the root mass. The water has to drop about 1.5" before there is even an air gap.




The roots up top are just too dense, the perlite too wet and packed, and the inverted taps meant it took a day for the water to drop enough to open up an air gap to let oxygen. But I water every day, so eventually the mass went a little anaerobic.
A 3/4" side drilled hole doesn't do that because the water level sits at the lowest point of the drill hole, and the entire circle is an air gap that can let the bucket breathe. The water was stagnating. And reeeeaaalll baaaaaaaad. I finally just decided to drill 3/4" holes on the opposite of the bucket from the taps.

It was so bad I had to clear the bathroom, and let the fan clear the bathroom for about 5 minutes before going back in, each time I drilled out a bucket in the tub. It came pouring out immediately followed by an overwhelming rotten egg smell. It was H2S gas (aka sour gas). The shit that can kill you (and quickly) in the oil patch or mines or breweries, if it's high enough concentration. It burnt my nostrils the one time, and it felt like sour gas exposure, I felt a little zoink to the brain, that's when I knew it was pretty bad and would have to clear the room. I've worked in oil and gas for a long time and I have a bit of a tolerance to low levels of H2S, but that whooped me in the face and sent me into evacuation mode. F**k, it was probably dangerous actually lol!! I wish I still had my old H2S monitor, it would have been interesting to see how high the levels were.

The plants didn't seem to care, they kept growing, but it probably would have went south on me very soon.

Moral of the story :

Never mess with perfection. The 3/4" hole drilled 2" up the side of the bucket works perfectly on a Hempy setup.



So I'm all drilled and drained now and hopefully the rezzes on each bucket will clear out over the next few waterings. Gonna brew up some Heisenberg tea. I'm well beyond sterile at this point, so I may as well get some serious bacterial action cleaning these out.


So here they are as of how ever long ago since I last posted.....too tired to math it up right now lol

The "dirty rotten bunch" in the 6x6.....hopefully no more rotten eggs from these girls anymore.




5x3 (one or two nights ago)



4x2 SCROG
I cut the bottom netting out, I figured it's done its job, and I will have to anyways, so this allowed me to drop the entire SCROG setup down a bit and line up some shorties. It didn't turn into the perfect formation I imagined, but not too bad. My 6x6 was kept pretty level with just tying down, and pinching and crushing stems. This seems like an awful lot of work, and extra veg time, though I did fill out nearly 8 ft² with a single plant so I guess there's that.
I'm still up in the air as to whether I like SCROG better than the way I do it, but I'll run it out and make the call later. It's been a fun project nonetheless.

 

[BH]

your journal shows the views of passion and grace and good organization skills and very clean. Keep it up!

 

[DavidDellaRocco]

your journal shows the views of passion and grace and good organization skills and very clean. Keep it up!

Thanks man, I appreciate that, very much.