Mushroom Cultivation

[JL2G]

I was just talking microdosing bro lol. That's some serious consumption! I'm actually working my way up to the hero dose. I'm a little nervous and don't want to until I feel ready. I had a few bad ones on shrooms back years ago. Had a ten strip back in the day. Gave two to my cousin and ate the 8. Fried balls, did some crazy shit, cried at the end, but wasn't a scary experience. Mushrooms seem to get me more into scary territory so I have a healthy respect for them these days.

Ya, I was maxi dosing. Lol. The average person/people that would trip with me on occasion could split an eighth and have a fantastic time. A whole eighth was a dope ass balls trip for em. Probably be where I'm at now. Lol.
My go to back then if I was going to be out in public was about 6 grams, anything going above that I'd stay somewhere safe. Lol.

$6.25 per 1/8. LMAOOOOOOO a pint of IPA at a bar costs more ???

Yes. Loss of ego. Happened once for me. Learned a lot on that trip. Like the whole world folded up and fell, breaking into tiny pieces before my eyes. Literally and metaphorically. I knew who I was in the "real world" and looked at myself objectively. An overwhelming sense of fear and purpose meshed into one allowed me to see that what I did in life could ultimately dictate what would occur in "the next level" of consciousness whatever that may be. Smelling colors, hearing taste, touching sight. It was a sunny day on the beach so it was even more monumental. It was no longer just me - it was a collective energy.

Exactly like that. You do better words than me.

Thanks man. It's hard to describe in words. Sometimes I wish you could jack-in ala the matrix or do the total recall temporary implant so you could experience what someone else may be trying to articulate.

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Exactly. So hard to really put in words. How do you put the metaphysical into words.

Less than 2dry g of a panaeolus cambodgeniensis had me on the floor in the fetal position. I have a print of this still but its very old and has not germed in several attempts. This is one fruit I did not share with anyone, and I only share with experienced close friends anyway. I just couldnt handle feeling responsible after my journey.
As I layed on my side, unable to do anything else, the tiny bug I watched crawling across the hardwood, soon became a monsterous beast traversing a mountainous terrain. The wood grain ebbed and flowed, rising in waves to enormous heights. The cracks/seams between the planks became giant cravases. I truly felt i was in some Alien landscape. Its the only time when I not only saw my legs and body bending uncontrollably , but felt it as pain as well. Intense pain.
Without a doubt the most potent fungi per weight I have experienced. Scary, ego death, very introspective stuff. The visuals so strong I couldnt distinguish if my eyes were open or closed. Walking was done more by thought than physical movement. Was i really even walking? Hell I dont know lol.
Memories I didnt even know I had resurfaced, some good some bad. A full spectrum of emotions from crying, mourning, to outright ecstasy and joy.
Even music was too much to handle. Even my favorites, I couldnt comprehend, as the sound from the speakers was not was I was hearing.
It wasn't a "one with the universe" type experience for sure. Not a bad trip, but I was so far out there,at times I wasnt sure I would return.
Unlike Cubes or Psilo Cyans, pans tend to give me a headache on come down and the day after.. Strange as the other two work wonders for migraines at microdose.. or larger
Might hit some jars with spores later today. Put some colonized jars to h.poo/coir substrate in a mono tub as well.
Do a little instructional description of how and whats being done.
Its interesting hearing y'alls experiences and thoughts. Enjoy, but be safe!

The too intense too look at, or listen to stuff I can relate. There was many a time that I had all the lights out, and silence in the fetal position on the bed. All the magic was going on in my head.
Like you say, memories that I didn't even remember coming up, but in a safe feeling space I was ready to deal with.
None of them were ever scary for me, it's actually what I was after. Lol. That other world experience. ???

 

[macsnax]

Less than 2dry g of a panaeolus cambodgeniensis had me on the floor in the fetal position. I have a print of this still but its very old and has not germed in several attempts. This is one fruit I did not share with anyone, and I only share with experienced close friends anyway. I just couldnt handle feeling responsible after my journey.
As I layed on my side, unable to do anything else, the tiny bug I watched crawling across the hardwood, soon became a monsterous beast traversing a mountainous terrain. The wood grain ebbed and flowed, rising in waves to enormous heights. The cracks/seams between the planks became giant cravases. I truly felt i was in some Alien landscape. Its the only time when I not only saw my legs and body bending uncontrollably , but felt it as pain as well. Intense pain.
Without a doubt the most potent fungi per weight I have experienced. Scary, ego death, very introspective stuff. The visuals so strong I couldnt distinguish if my eyes were open or closed. Walking was done more by thought than physical movement. Was i really even walking? Hell I dont know lol.
Memories I didnt even know I had resurfaced, some good some bad. A full spectrum of emotions from crying, mourning, to outright ecstasy and joy.
Even music was too much to handle. Even my favorites, I couldnt comprehend, as the sound from the speakers was not was I was hearing.
It wasn't a "one with the universe" type experience for sure. Not a bad trip, but I was so far out there,at times I wasnt sure I would return.
Unlike Cubes or Psilo Cyans, pans tend to give me a headache on come down and the day after.. Strange as the other two work wonders for migraines at microdose.. or larger
Might hit some jars with spores later today. Put some colonized jars to h.poo/coir substrate in a mono tub as well.
Do a little instructional description of how and whats being done.
Its interesting hearing y'alls experiences and thoughts. Enjoy, but be safe!

Yikes those sound like they could scare the crap out of me if over indulged. I'll definitely be watching your thread for these guys

 

[macsnax]

@GCG - Pans and cubes are exactly what grows in those pastures. Though these were improved through isolation and cloning. Ive heard more than a few have your experience. Just not getting there.

Just a warning, if you are on any SSRI or SNRI meds, it will affect the potency. Larger doses used to achieve a full blown experience can then lead to seratonin syndrome. Not Fun.
Once left me with paralysis in hands and face for an hr or so. Inability to swallow. Very stroke like. Had I not known beforehand the potential symptoms... I probably would have gone to the ER. Thats never fun when you are having a wonderful trip.

I learned to stop taking any prescription mind altering meds at least a week before a dose. I dont take any at all now. And only dose once or twice a yr.
Valium or Benzos being the exception, and a good thing to have on hand, just in case sh*t gets too crazy.

In your opinion, do you see different cubes giving different trips, effects?

 

[macsnax]

Ya, I was maxi dosing. Lol. The average person/people that would trip with me on occasion could split an eighth and have a fantastic time. A whole eighth was a dope ass balls trip for em. Probably be where I'm at now. Lol.
My go to back then if I was going to be out in public was about 6 grams, anything going above that I'd stay somewhere safe. Lol.

Exactly like that. You do better words than me.

Exactly. So hard to really put in words. How do you put the metaphysical into words.

The too intense too look at, or listen to stuff I can relate. There was many a time that I had all the lights out, and silence in the fetal position on the bed. All the magic was going on in my head.
Like you say, memories that I didn't even remember coming up, but in a safe feeling space I was ready to deal with.
None of them were ever scary for me, it's actually what I was after. Lol. That other world experience. ???

Ya that's a pretty big walking around in public dose for me. I walked into a liquor store on 2 grams last weekend after checking myself in mirror a couple times and still felt awkward about it lol

 

[jpcyan2]

A cube is a cube Imo. However, as you have experienced, potency varies from mushroom to mushroom, flush to flush. And some do have differing effects depending on quantities of the active levels of psilocybin, psilocin, as well as other compounds.

So many variables come into play, including what you've eaten, state of mind, any potentiating substances like grapefruit juice. Even the choice of substrate may have some effect.

Sometimes you will find a cube strain significantly more potent, but it may not be the same from cake to cake or tray to tray. Its all relative.

When individual spores germinate and come together, it takes two to mate and produce mycelium. There are hundreds of combinations in each jar and usually the strongest takes over. Not necessarily the most potent. Just the healthiest mating pair. I will post a basic diagram of how it works later.

Similar to self crossing your fav strain of green for the first time, You get a wide variety of offspring unless its already a super stable strain.
Breeding is quite difficult with fungi . But other measure can be taken to produce the healthiest, best production out of a single variety.
Cloning a primo specimen is one.

This is why I say the open vs closed cap thing, is not as important as some make it out to be. Plus I just like beauty of the mature specimens

 

[JL2G]

Ya that's a pretty big walking around in public dose for me. I walked into a liquor store on 2 grams last weekend after checking myself in mirror a couple times and still felt awkward about it lol

By out in public I mean more as in concert and or festival going type activities. Lol
6 grams and I know I looked like a friggin loon. But I blended in with the rest of the general crowd. Lmfao.
Not the general day to day stuff. And definately chaueferred. Lmfao.
If I was actually needing to have functionality of sorts 3 or 4 grams was about it. Lmfao. Again, still needing a chauffeur. Lmfao.
A dose of 2 to 4 grams was great for a hike, or a mtn bike ride though. An absolute blast going fast. Lol.
Like warp speed in star wars. ???
Or ludicrous speed in Spaceballs being more appropriate. Rofl

 

[macsnax]

A cube is a cube Imo. However, as you have experienced, potency varies from mushroom to mushroom, flush to flush. And some do have differing effects depending on quantities of the active levels of psilocybin, psilocin, as well as other compounds.

So many variables come into play, including what you've eaten, state of mind, any potentiating substances like grapefruit juice. Even the choice of substrate may have some effect.

Sometimes you will find a cube strain significantly more potent, but it may not be the same from cake to cake or tray to tray. Its all relative.

When individual spores germinate and come together, it takes two to mate and produce mycelium. There are hundreds of combinations in each jar and usually the strongest takes over. Not necessarily the most potent. Just the healthiest mating pair. I will post a basic diagram of how it works later.

Similar to self crossing your fav strain of green for the first time, You get a wide variety of offspring unless its already a super stable strain.
Breeding is quite difficult with fungi . But other measure can be taken to produce the healthiest, best production out of a single variety.
Cloning a primo specimen is one.

This is why I say the open vs closed cap thing, is not as important as some make it out to be. Plus I just like beauty of the mature specimens

That's my thoughts as well, just wanted to see where you were with that. I've heard people talk about differences, but I think there is a lot to it too. Body chemistry is pretty crazy stuff...... Really cool I just got the back story on these blue mags I've been growing. Doc had the print for years and didn't give it any play because he was stuck on PE. Blew him away when he finally gave them a go.

 

[macsnax]

By out in public I mean more as in concert and or festival going type activities. Lol
6 grams and I know I looked like a friggin loon. But I blended in with the rest of the general crowd. Lmfao.
Not the general day to day stuff. And definately chaueferred. Lmfao.
If I was actually needing to have functionality of sorts 3 or 4 grams was about it. Lmfao. Again, still needing a chauffeur. Lmfao.
A dose of 2 to 4 grams was great for a hike, or a mtn bike ride though. An absolute blast going fast. Lol.
Like warp speed in star wars. ???
Or ludicrous speed in Spaceballs being more appropriate. Rofl

Ok I get it, I was like damn this dude can handle a dose. Lol to infinity and beyond brotha ?

 

[JL2G]

Ok I get it, I was damn this dude can handle a dose. Lol to infinity and beyond brotha ?

Well there is that part too. Lol.
I'm sure I did develope a massive tolerance increase over the extended usage. Lol
It was a few years later after I'd quit the heavy use, and moved into the house Im in now. Well I found a few baggies with a total of about 3 eighths worth in them when going through stuff. Lol
The then wife ate about 25% of what was there and I ate the rest. Oh my the new house was an adventure. Lmfao.
It was a blast unpacking and going through all our shit. Lmfao, quite a disaster of a mess though. Ahahahaha.

 

[macsnax]

Well there is that part too. Lol.
I'm sure I did develope a massive tolerance increase over the extended usage. Lol
It was a few years later after I'd quit the heavy use, and moved into the house Im in now. Well I found a few baggies with a total of about 3 eighths worth in them when going through stuff. Lol
The then wife ate about 25% of what was there and I ate the rest. Oh my the new house was an adventure. Lmfao.
It was a blast unpacking and going through all our shit. Lmfao, quite a disaster of a mess though. Ahahahaha.

Oh man I can imagine the mess lol.

 

[JL2G]

Oh man I can imagine the mess lol.

Later on down the road be finding stuff tucked deep in random cabinet, closet space, like wtf? Lmfao.

 

[spyralout]

And for the record the only mushrooms Ive experienced are whatever grow in cow pastures. Not that crazy shaman shit you guys are talking about.

cow shit, shaman shit, it's all

 

[spyralout]

 

[GCG]

 

[spyralout]

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Damn shame the way he went. Pure gonzo journalism.

 

[macsnax]

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I love that movie

 

[Dino Party]

is 100 too hot for drying mushrooms? its the lowest my food dehydrator goes. I've seen conflicting info. I've done it, and eaten them and they definetly kick, but I dont know if I'm damaging them at all and they could kick more kickier.

 

[macsnax]

is 100 too hot for drying mushrooms? its the lowest my food dehydrator goes. I've seen conflicting info. I've done it, and eaten them and they definetly kick, but I dont know if I'm damaging them at all and they could kick more kickier.

I've wondered the same thing. @jpcyan2 would be the guy to ask. I decided to buy one of those herbnow dryers for buds and am thinking it would work great for drying mushrooms. I know a lot of people use dehydrators to dry mushrooms, but I'm not sure how they are doing it.

 

[Dino Party]

I've wondered the same thing. @jpcyan2 would be the guy to ask. I decided to buy one of those herbnow dryers for buds and am thinking it would work great for drying mushrooms. I know a lot of people use dehydrators to dry mushrooms, but I'm not sure what how they are doing it.

mine goes from 100-160 (the Hamelton one) and one guy says he does it at 160, but i dont know if he was stupid or not.

 

[jpcyan2]

I've never used a dehydrator, but have it from a trusted source and well known authority on the subject, that they work just fine on low. No issues with loss. I'd wondered about it myself. Even discouraged it until someone with lots of experience straightened me out.
Just remove them as soon as they are cracker dry, and get them sealed up for storage. Excessive heat and oxidation can cause in loss of potency.