Lures and Rigs

Amarok

bad mother chucker
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End of the day, had a blast and I’m not all that bothered about how much I bragged up the boat because it is pretty dang awesome.
I hope you don't think I was busting your balls about that with my last post.

That boat is fucking amazing, far nicer than anything I've ever cast from. I'd be just as excited as you.('course I would have caught some fish:dancingsmiley" ;))
 

Mim Towls

Basement Blendz
Fishin' Mod
I hope you don't think I was busting your balls about that with my last post
I hoped that you were! Someone had to and only a real friend would actually come out and say it lol. For real tho, how you gonna be in the nicest boat but not catch a damn fish?! Hahaha for some reason I just want to fish even more now. I’m sick…. Got that fishin bug and it’ll never leave!
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
If Memory serves me, that particular State allows live bait options for using a Carp on a Balloon rig to catch Musky. I haven't ever seen a better bait myself. Though I'm not allowed to do it because our DNR is all like "But if it comes off the hook, technically it could get to another stream and we don't want that".... *sigh*. The fact that you can only use live bait caught in the same Watershed you're fishing already makes that kind of dumb in my opinion...Like fuck man, it's not like I'm casting out a Poodle...
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
This is how I learned a bit about that company myself:



He's a good dude, and does honest reviews for products. He shows their "Abu" offering in this one, as the "Round Bait Caster Reels" are a go to design for a lot of Catfish guys. It's a good Channel, and he does do more than just Catfishing, so if you have some time, it's not a bad idea to check him out.
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
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Going to pick up one of these boxes for the winter.
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I had a rough go with busting ice-rod tips last year. My research lead me to this unit as a solution. Reviews are good, as is the price.
They are sold as rod cases for two-piece rods, but ice fishermen have adopted them.
 

Mim Towls

Basement Blendz
Fishin' Mod
Going to pick up one of these boxes for the winter.
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I had a rough go with busting ice-rod tips last year. My research lead me to this unit as a solution. Reviews are good, as is the price.
They are sold as rod cases for two-piece rods, but ice fishermen have adopted them.
That thing is pretty sweet. I've never seen that or considered what types of struggles the ice fishing people deal with. I love the way that case is built.
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
Yeah, I can imagine how a Rod would react to it being that cold outside, as it would make a lot of materials more brittle than they normally would be. Or at least that is how my brain plays it out anyway.

I don't honestly have any Ice Fishing rods or reels, but I do have a Zebco "Dock Demon", which is a small rod with a REALLY tiny Reel it came with, and it's made from pure Z-Glass, and it's solid, so they're actually pretty hard to bust. It came spooled with 6 pound test mono, but I took all that stuff off.... I legit snapped it trying to tie a knot... LOL. I can't do easily snapping line like that personally. I had a spool of 10 pound Mono though, which is the smallest line I own. I added that on there so I can at least tie on my rigs.

I feel like it would work well for Ice Fishing. I mainly use it for testing, and, for being able to take a set up out with me without carrying anything heavy. I've seen "torture tests" done with that rod, and they're pretty hard to break, so I like it. I like durable. I think it's the one I used to land my first Pumpkin Seed. I have some teeny tiny Ice Fishing jigs that I like for Sunfish. I normally use candy to catch those, but Bread works well too.

One thing about Sunfish, you can get a good school of them to stick around by tossing little pieces of bread out on the water, and they'll eat that, and then, you use a Styrofoam piece on the hook (bread doesn't stay on a hook very well but it's white too, so the fish don't seem to be able to tell the difference) but personally I like the candy options; Sticky is easy to keep on a hook.
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
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I love the way that case is built.
Me too. :) There are fancy metal ones that go for hundreds of bucks, but most aren't as deep and have fixed interiors. The movable dividers on this one were a selling feature for me. This should hold most of my lures and small tools in addition to the rods.

Running into town today so I'll grab it then.
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
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Yeah, I can imagine how a Rod would react to it being that cold outside, as it would make a lot of materials more brittle than they normally would be. Or at least that is how my brain plays it out anyway.

I don't honestly have any Ice Fishing rods or reels, but I do have a Zebco "Dock Demon", which is a small rod with a REALLY tiny Reel it came with, and it's made from pure Z-Glass, and it's solid, so they're actually pretty hard to bust. It came spooled with 6 pound test mono, but I took all that stuff off.... I legit snapped it trying to tie a knot... LOL. I can't do easily snapping line like that personally. I had a spool of 10 pound Mono though, which is the smallest line I own. I added that on there so I can at least tie on my rigs.

I feel like it would work well for Ice Fishing. I mainly use it for testing, and, for being able to take a set up out with me without carrying anything heavy. I've seen "torture tests" done with that rod, and they're pretty hard to break, so I like it. I like durable. I think it's the one I used to land my first Pumpkin Seed. I have some teeny tiny Ice Fishing jigs that I like for Sunfish. I normally use candy to catch those, but Bread works well too.

One thing about Sunfish, you can get a good school of them to stick around by tossing little pieces of bread out on the water, and they'll eat that, and then, you use a Styrofoam piece on the hook (bread doesn't stay on a hook very well but it's white too, so the fish don't seem to be able to tell the difference) but personally I like the candy options; Sticky is easy to keep on a hook.
It's more about how much they get beat up in the car with all the other gear, or on the sled. Everything gets bounced around pretty good.

Funny that you mention the Dock Demon. That is actually a very popular ice fishing rod in some circles. Guys throw away the reel but the rod is supposed to be great for panfish. Shakespeare has the Dock Runner, but it is inferior according to those who know.

You've mentioned chumming and bread tossing. While both are apparently effective, it is illegal here. Any bait must be attached to your fishing line.
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
It's more about how much they get beat up in the car with all the other gear, or on the sled. Everything gets bounced around pretty good.

That case looks to be a welcome fix for that problem though. Looks pretty nice.
Funny that you mention the Dock Demon. That is actually a very popular ice fishing rod in some circles. Guys throw away the reel but the rod is supposed to be great for panfish. Shakespeare has the Dock Runner, but it is inferior according to those who know.
Yeah, the Reel is kind of trash, but, it works fine for smaller fish. I mean, I added 10 pound line, so, for a Sunfish style catch, I don't need the drag to work nicely (which is good because, it doesn't LOL, it's almost as sticky as Creamy Greases) but I just don't have another reel to toss on it right now.

Yeah that Dock Runner is in no way as good in my opinion either. They made it the way any other Ugly Stik is made, which is a Composite of Graphite and Glass. Now, true, that adds a little bit extra backbone, but the cost is being way more brittle from the Graphite end of it. That Cats and Carp YouTube channel I like, he tests both of those out, and only the Dock Runner was broken at the end. The Reels on them suck either way, but for 15 dollars... LOL.

You've mentioned chumming and bread tossing. While both are apparently effective, it is illegal here. Any bait much be attached to your fishing line.

Yeah same :( All because of Trout and Salmon that shouldn't be in these rivers to begin with. America is funny like that; If a Catfish shows up in a water it's not supposed to be in, it's invasive. If a Salmonid or Bass show up, it's "Non Native"..... Florida has Peacock Bass from the Amazon. They're actually a species of Cichilid, and they are "Non Native" according to the Florida DNR. Those BEAUTIFUL Amazon Catfish have showed up and they are "Kill on site"..... *sigh*. If only I'd thought to tell people Blue Catfish were actually "Large Mouth Salmon" we'd have them by now LOL.
 

Mim Towls

Basement Blendz
Fishin' Mod
Spent about an hour and a half chucking baits into the low head. I need more practice with dive and rise baits and jerk baits. I am not familiar enough yet with them eating on the fall and training myself for transitioning my jerk to a hook set will be very beneficial to me. Moving baits like bucktails I can easily recognize a hit when it comes. I felt some resistance, saw the fish turn sideways and it was too late. Next time I'm hitting it with that ol' Roland Martin rip lippin hookset.

As far as the piscifun reel, it seems pretty nice. I really like the higher gear ratio of 8:1 for burning spinners and retrieving a lure that fouled on a cast. We will see how it holds up to some frozen winter musky fishing.

I did notice that having some nice muskies under my belt makes the days when you only see a fish or miss one, much much easier to digest. When that stuff would happen to me a couple years ago, before I had ever landed one, boy did it hurt. I used to feel like it was so pointless and that I wasted so much time and money getting myself set up to catch these fish. Now I have some confidence and when I miss a fish like today, I just leave em alone and know that I'll get em next time. I just hope that my 10,000 cast counter doesn't re-set on those fish...
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
Just had a nice one eat this tube on the fall, didn’t set hooks hard enough and she spit it out. This is going to be a fun winter…I’ll throw these things till they bounce off the ice
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Those lures are sweet! you can add an Alka Seltzer tablet inside it, with like.... I think it's a piece of Cotton you add to hold it in place, but it makes bubbles come out the other end of it, which adds noise and visual stimulation to the presentation, and apparently it's pretty nice for getting fish to trigger.
Spent about an hour and a half chucking baits into the low head. I need more practice with dive and rise baits and jerk baits. I am not familiar enough yet with them eating on the fall and training myself for transitioning my jerk to a hook set will be very beneficial to me. Moving baits like bucktails I can easily recognize a hit when it comes. I felt some resistance, saw the fish turn sideways and it was too late. Next time I'm hitting it with that ol' Roland Martin rip lippin hookset.

As far as the piscifun reel, it seems pretty nice. I really like the higher gear ratio of 8:1 for burning spinners and retrieving a lure that fouled on a cast. We will see how it holds up to some frozen winter musky fishing.

I did notice that having some nice muskies under my belt makes the days when you only see a fish or miss one, much much easier to digest. When that stuff would happen to me a couple years ago, before I had ever landed one, boy did it hurt. I used to feel like it was so pointless and that I wasted so much time and money getting myself set up to catch these fish. Now I have some confidence and when I miss a fish like today, I just leave em alone and know that I'll get em next time. I just hope that my 10,000 cast counter doesn't re-set on those fish...

I know what you mean; There's been days where I felt like I wasted time, and felt like I was simply not doing something right, when in reality, fish simply don't attack on command. Well, unless you train them of course... But in the River I mean LOL.

There's been a few days where I knew very well, it's unlikely I'll see a Catfish today, because it's super hot, and really bright out, and they go low on some of those days. But I still tossed a bait out anyway, just to see. On at least one occasion, I was pleasantly surprised.

I was fishing at a River section with the Wife and a friend of ours, and we had been out there in the heat, hiking through the woods to get to the spot, and all they had brought for bait, were crawlers, which I hate using. As we're sitting there waiting for a bite, I notice a Craw Fish near the bank of the River / Beach like area in the woods that we're at, and I grab him. He was a nice sized bait; Like 3 or so inches, so I instantly Reel my line in, toss the bait off my hook, and put my Octopus Hook through the chest of the "mini lobster" and toss it back out near a tree by the other side of the River.

Took less than 5 minutes and my rod tip is bent down to the point of almost pulling my Rod in.... Maybe a 7 or 8 pound Channel Cat had grabbed it. Got him in quick enough, but MAN they are strong.

That's a struggle sometimes LOL; "Am I doing something wrong, and need to switch up my presentation? Or are the fish simply not in the mood yet, and I need to wait it out and see?" haha.
 

Amarok

bad mother chucker
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That's a struggle sometimes LOL; "Am I doing something wrong, and need to switch up my presentation? Or are the fish simply not in the mood yet, and I need to wait it out and see?" haha.
There are definitely two extremes. There are the guys(usually with fast boats or skidoos) who pull up, try for a few minutes, and move on to the next spot if the fish aren't jumping out of the water at them. Then there are the ones who go the same place and do the same thing every time, with no flexibility.

I'm not super mobile, so I go to where I figure the fish should be and then start working through the bag of tricks. I have fallen into the no-flexibility trap before, especially in the river. Nowadays, carrying 3 or 4 rods rigged for specific presentations keeps me on my toes.
 
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