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SCJedi

SCJedi

In Bloom
Some of you may or may not know that I have embarked on another seed preservation run. This time it is a strain from Bodhi:

I have 9 mature unsexed plants a runt. They went from solos into half gallons on 2/11 and into 3 gallon bags yesterday. I have them in a modified subcool recipe provided by Lubda from RIU. On to the pron...

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SCJedi

SCJedi

In Bloom
I am not sure how this part got cut out of post #43 but this is the run:

Type: Apollo 13 Gorilla Arm x Apollo 11 Genius pheno
Sex: Regular
Genetics: Apollo 13 Gorilla Arm x Apollo 11 Genius pheno
Flowering Time: medium
Outdoor Harvest:
Height: Medium
Characteristics: Apollo family reunion
the powerful massive monster a13 (gorilla arm cut) has a family reunion with the big bushy pineapple a11 genius pheno. this is a special apollo family reunion, the a13 is powerful and big but lacks flavor and aroma and is a little on the stretchy side, the a11 g has the flavor and aroma with a bushy shorter framework, this hybrid’s goal is to create the perfect apollo combination for flavor, aroma, yield, structure, and effect.
pre release strains have limited testing or are currently in testing to be new lines.

Bodhi's notes regarding the A11 Genius Pheno:
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Apollo 11 Genius Pheno (Bodhi Seeds) :: Cannabis Strain Info

Brothers grimm cindy and apollo family releases have always been a treasure trove for quick finishing indoor sativa dominant plants,some people even say the closest they have ever gotten to the holy grail. it seems like c99 has gotten alot of attenti...
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Brothers grimm cindy and apollo family releases have always been a treasure trove for quick finishing indoor sativa dominant plants,some people even say the closest they have ever gotten to the holy grail. it seems like c99 has gotten alot of attention recently... and dont get me wrong, i love c99 for its big yeilds of zippy melony buds, but my real love is for the genius clone and her children a11 and a13. apollo 11 for me is much deeper, psychedelic,feminine, motivating mind fire... with beautiful frosty extraterrestrial buds, peach hairs, and the aroma of pineapple cheetos. this release is my selection twords the genius pheno, from fet of spice brothers selection twords the g pheno, from a large population of original brothers grimm a11 stock. i made these originally for myself to cross into the genius and a13 clones, but its such an amazing plant ive decided to get these out asap, share the love, and hope you get as much enjoyment as i have from her. look for the more bushy g phenos, some with atypical branching, great for scrog, nice yeilds, extreme bag appeal, extreme mind appeal... beautiful stuff!!!!

Genetics: genius x c99 f3 via brothers grimm/fet
Flowering Time: short
Height: Medium
Characteristics: psychedelic pineapple mind cheetos
 
chiefer888

chiefer888

In Bloom
SCJedi said:
I am not sure how this part got cut out of post #43 but this is the run:

Type: Apollo 13 Gorilla Arm x Apollo 11 Genius pheno
Sex: Regular
Genetics: Apollo 13 Gorilla Arm x Apollo 11 Genius pheno
Flowering Time: medium
Outdoor Harvest:
Height: Medium
Characteristics: Apollo family reunion
the powerful massive monster a13 (gorilla arm cut) has a family reunion with the big bushy pineapple a11 genius pheno. this is a special apollo family reunion, the a13 is powerful and big but lacks flavor and aroma and is a little on the stretchy side, the a11 g has the flavor and aroma with a bushy shorter framework, this hybrid’s goal is to create the perfect apollo combination for flavor, aroma, yield, structure, and effect.
pre release strains have limited testing or are currently in testing to be new lines.

Bodhi's notes regarding the A11 Genius Pheno:
en.seedfinder.eu

Apollo 11 Genius Pheno (Bodhi Seeds) :: Cannabis Strain Info

Brothers grimm cindy and apollo family releases have always been a treasure trove for quick finishing indoor sativa dominant plants,some people even say the closest they have ever gotten to the holy grail. it seems like c99 has gotten alot of attenti...
en.seedfinder.eu en.seedfinder.eu

Brothers grimm cindy and apollo family releases have always been a treasure trove for quick finishing indoor sativa dominant plants,some people even say the closest they have ever gotten to the holy grail. it seems like c99 has gotten alot of attention recently... and dont get me wrong, i love c99 for its big yeilds of zippy melony buds, but my real love is for the genius clone and her children a11 and a13. apollo 11 for me is much deeper, psychedelic,feminine, motivating mind fire... with beautiful frosty extraterrestrial buds, peach hairs, and the aroma of pineapple cheetos. this release is my selection twords the genius pheno, from fet of spice brothers selection twords the g pheno, from a large population of original brothers grimm a11 stock. i made these originally for myself to cross into the genius and a13 clones, but its such an amazing plant ive decided to get these out asap, share the love, and hope you get as much enjoyment as i have from her. look for the more bushy g phenos, some with atypical branching, great for scrog, nice yeilds, extreme bag appeal, extreme mind appeal... beautiful stuff!!!!

Genetics: genius x c99 f3 via brothers grimm/fet
Flowering Time: short
Height: Medium
Characteristics: psychedelic pineapple mind cheetos
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I am way interested in this project. I look forward to following along!
 
SCJedi

SCJedi

In Bloom
SSGrower said:
@SCJedi would you care to elaborate on what you mean when you say you are cleaning up your blackwater? I cant detect any anomolies I would consider harmfull in the pictures you have poseted. Is it pm?
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Happily, and thanks for your question, I appreciate it.

Plants, like people, get tired. We are still made of the same genetics but there may be other outside influences that determine the phenotypical expressions that we see when the genotype comes into contact with said influences. Think mutations like cancer.

Over time, a plant may or may not handle these influences well like pests from disease, molds, mildews, etc.

There are a few traits that I have noticed with the BW for a while now but most particularly noticeable is that she is getting much more difficult to clone. I have also noticed over the past few years that not only is she unruly receiving pollen but she also laughs at Silver (although I am about to test this again)

For example, I hit a seemingly healthy BW around week 3 of flower with a pumping Granny Skunk male and only got about 7 seeds.

I have had her for about 10 years through a friend and never really knew what she was like at seed stage 0 but the idea of running a plant through tissue culture is to get her back to the picture-perfect health the day she was born.

So I did a round of tissue culture with her and had 100% contamination as I ran media with no biocide in it. This might indicate that there may be the presence of something systemic. It has been a mold/mildew vector for a minute now and I am hoping that I can potentially get rid of something nefarious that lives inside that we cannot see, just like you pointed out.

Other possible benefits could be faster flowering, larger yields, but the goal is just a healthier plant overall.

Did that answer your question? I feel like it was more of a ramble.
 
DopeDaniel

DopeDaniel

Taste The Spectrum
IPM Forum Moderator
SCJedi said:
Happily, and thanks for your question, I appreciate it.

Plants, like people, get tired. We are still made of the same genetics but there may be other outside influences that determine the phenotypical expressions that we see when the genotype comes into contact with said influences. Think mutations like cancer.

Over time, a plant may or may not handle these influences well like pests from disease, molds, mildews, etc.

There are a few traits that I have noticed with the BW for a while now but most particularly noticeable is that she is getting much more difficult to clone. I have also noticed over the past few years that not only is she unruly receiving pollen but she also laughs at Silver (although I am about to test this again)

For example, I hit a seemingly healthy BW around week 3 of flower with a pumping Granny Skunk male and only got about 7 seeds.

I have had her for about 10 years through a friend and never really knew what she was like at seed stage 0 but the idea of running a plant through tissue culture is to get her back to the picture-perfect health the day she was born.

So I did a round of tissue culture with her and had 100% contamination as I ran media with no biocide in it. This might indicate that there may be the presence of something systemic. It has been a mold/mildew vector for a minute now and I am hoping that I can potentially get rid of something nefarious that lives inside that we cannot see, just like you pointed out.

Other possible benefits could be faster flowering, larger yields, but the goal is just a healthier plant overall.

Did that answer your question? I feel like it was more of a ramble.
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Good ramble, I suspected you were referring to pm, I didnt realize she was that old! Your answer provided me with much needed insight as to why tc is a valuable tool.

So, when do you get to see the fruits of your labor? You are probably more anxious than I am to see if she clones easier, but still I wanna know what you observe and opinion when you have one.

P.S. I'll get you a real update on the ns x gs when I have something to give, just put one in flower 6 nodes in a 1/2 gal, in general not a lot of side branching, perhaps some slight differences observable between no.1 and no.2. I am actually transitioning 3 of them (possibly 2 one might be a blue ripper from @groerr, CRS) from soil to hydro so they arent exactly happy with me.
 
SCJedi

SCJedi

In Bloom
SSGrower said:
Good ramble, I suspected you were referring to pm, I didnt realize she was that old! Your answer provided me with much needed insight as to why tc is a valuable tool.

So, when do you get to see the fruits of your labor? You are probably more anxious than I am to see if she clones easier, but still I wanna know what you observe and opinion when you have one.

P.S. I'll get you a real update on the ns x gs when I have something to give, just put one in flower 6 nodes in a 1/2 gal, in general not a lot of side branching, perhaps some slight differences observable between no.1 and no.2. I am actually transitioning 3 of them (possibly 2 one might be a blue ripper from @groerr, CRS) from soil to hydro so they arent exactly happy with me.
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If I take shortcuts about 6-8 weeks. I'm really looking at adding at least 4-6 weeks to that.

If you need things in a hurry or you don't have patience then tissue culture isn't for you. Everything happens pretty slowly especially while you are figuring out the ideal protocol.
 
OldG

OldG

Elite Hobbyist
Plants get older like people....do you think they have a peak like people? When they produce the most virile cuts (i have cloned 4 things ever)

A mother that is X months old is at peak and at XX months it drops off and should be flowered out?

And the Nigerian Granny responded to that 1 gallon pot overnight BOOM!. That other pot was really small. maybe a cup or 2 and she was going to be root bound shortly. Thanks !
 
SCJedi

SCJedi

In Bloom
OldG said:
Plants get older like people....do you think they have a peak like people? When they produce the most virile cuts (i have cloned 4 things ever)

A mother that is X months old is at peak and at XX months it drops off and should be flowered out?

And the Nigerian Granny responded to that 1 gallon pot overnight BOOM!. That other pot was really small. maybe a cup or 2 and she was going to be root bound shortly. Thanks !
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Sorry for not seeing your question until now.

It is my opinion that plants and people age and get ill in a similar fashion. However, just as humans all peak (or get ill) at varying periods, so do plants. This is because it usually takes a concerted effort for a human or plant to get ill.

The loose variables are us and the environment that we keep plants in. Theoretically, if you kept a plant in an isolated growth chamber under the most ideal conditions for that cultivar it could live forever. Well, in theory anyway.

Unfortunately, you grow where you do and expose that cultivar to A, B, and C and I grow the identical genes and exposed it to A, B and Z.

I will use a human example. Cancer, (yuck, I dislike even typing the word) is not an individual disease but is the result of a few things happening that causes neoplasia (uncontrolled cell growth) from a cellular mutation. The factors that trigger that mutation may or may not have caused it individually but typically are one or a combination of exposure to something environmental, food, pesticides, UV from sunlight, [insert anything mutagenic here].

Someone may be more or less inclined to those triggers based on their genetic predisposition. Plants are similar.

You might be cloning the clones of the clones, ad nauseam and do just fine while someone else tries and ends up with a sick mother plant.

I know someone that has been cloning the same Northern Lights plant since 1984 and it does just fine. (although I'd still love to run it through TC).

Hopefully, that clears things a bit.
 
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