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Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
Hey guys I was talking to katsu this morning and he said I should put this link up here to get some of you guys to check out his discord they do quite a bit of seed giveaways over there and he puts special deals up on there too
Join the Katsu Bluebird Discord Server!
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Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
Really started thinking today about what I ordered from DCSE and really thought about it and remembered nothing lol I didn’t place an order with Paul, I ordered from Wellgrownseeds lol
Jewels
Tilts at Tables
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
per gallon
Venerate - 1-5 T ( use 1-2 for no bugs and raise dosage to 3-5T if bugs are there) = the terps of these fungi attract it and as a good ipm these need to be sprayed weekly to keep the attraction but also effectiveness of being able to not have any pest pressure.
Grandevo - 1-3T per gallon
if you don't have a pest pressure issue currently and ur interest is to keep bug free, all you'll need is both those products. but if ur already infected or have a high pest pressure, my suggestion when "infected" you'll need that extra aid to win the war.
both products listed above they do not apply a wetting agent built in = main reason is because if u used it as a drench it would foam, if other products if u mixed already had or did not want wetting agents u could still use it np. I would suggest using yucca extract
a suggestion for biocontrols application is apply these every 7-14 days ( rep told me even for mites their products mode of action does same 7-14 days vs every 3 days), if bug issue apply at rate of eggs hatch and add a "knockout " mixed with it. I only use the knockout as least often as I can and I also know majority of knockouts have a known issue of making pest harder and easier for the pest to become resistant . this is why biocontrol pesticides hit that advantage because pest will not become resistant of that. another huge game changer for safety as a grower but also can be used to harvest if needed. a huge tip towards my schedule for the grandevo/venerate is to apply every up to 5-7th week of bloom and if u don't see any any pest population , stop spraying those products than and that will save ya cash . but the issues without those products lets say u only used traditional pesticides, majority really shouldn't be used after b buds are forming for multiple reasons .
like my guide said on SOP, if pest occurs I would suggest a knockout mixed in like spinosad (captain jacks/conserve sc) or Pyrethrum. using these two knockouts and a mix of those two biocontrols will def wipe em out. key is your spraying schedule cause there's no reason to waste the expensive knockouts , sad part is most traditional pest cost are if not 10x+ more expensive per gal than bio pesticides .
schedule if attack:
knockout #1 (example spinosad ) mixed with Grandevo + wetting agent
7 days later , pest pressure scan the area for how much of a impact and if population is getting worse but also the age cycle of the pest. if pest are still there , apply knockout #2 + biocontrol , example Venerate ( just opposites every time ) + wetting agent
7 days later, keep scanning and see if pests pressure is lowering or same/higher. if same as previous week or looks like pest are lowering apply only apply ur biocontrol pesticide , meaning foliar spray Grandevo ( just rotating ) + wetting agent . difference is you are not using that expensive knockout every 3-4th time but also having a multiple mode defense .
if your pest issues while scanning shows they are coming back or pressure isnt going down. I would suggest intill u can't apply the knockouts anymore in flower to do that multiple rotation ipm with knockouts. the benefit after ur pest pressure for indoors is done. unless u don't have a sealed room or bringing in pest, by applying a biocontrol pesticide every 7-14 days as a ipm after infections and to cement that defense mode. whatcha know im bug free unless I do stupid shit and if I do I can def fuck em up. key is if I was using traditional only and tried to do it weekly not only would pest would become way tougher to kill but also if u look at many of the products they also can put bad residue on ur environment and also the cost alone. doing something as a IPM always in a cycle infill last few weeks made al the diff from worrying of the bugs vs knowing I have a invisible defense that attracts the bugs and they will die and also become zombies if so.
the reason I never suggest using one golden ticket product because more I learn about how these products function ( majority of knockouts have cycle limits and many cons) its no wonder many products cannot kill or win a long term battle with a semi large pest issue. the key is scanning and having a cement ipm but also knowing u need a multi function/mode attack if they are there but if the pest isnt its always suggested to have the 7-14 days biocontrols sprayed to make sure 200+ pest if in room pick the fungi/bacteria over ur plant and die.
since only 2 knockouts and 2 biocontrols go back to first spray and repeat. if no pest just use grandevo and venerate and your set! if my wording doesn't make sense or im lacking something ( this is all free written and stoned lol)
knockouts I was suggesting :
evergreen pyrethrum = best bang for ur buck on pyrethrum , the same thing but organic label is 3x+ more)
Spinosad! conserve sc = that will last u for life, alt brand but more expensive over all is captain jacks dead bug. just like evergreen if u get "entrust sc" which is same company, same thing and quality.. just labeling and 5x+ in cost
Conserve SC
expensive version.. 800 bucks LOL
another issue people have is they over spray and use a hand spray. majority of manuals you'll read they say "no droplets" and full covered needed. the more I advised and watched others its also another reason if a non systemic product cannot work if they are over spraying and making droplets vs full mist and making sure all of it got sprayed. ive tried many brands of sprayed but man this is nice but also I can spray 10-20 times on a 1 gal before charge and it saves me spray % vs a hand pump. paid for itself first season
Venerate - 1-5 T ( use 1-2 for no bugs and raise dosage to 3-5T if bugs are there) = the terps of these fungi attract it and as a good ipm these need to be sprayed weekly to keep the attraction but also effectiveness of being able to not have any pest pressure.
Grandevo - 1-3T per gallon
https://cdn.commercev3.net/cdn.arbico-organics.com/downloads/small_tank_mixes_Marrone%20products.pdf
if you don't have a pest pressure issue currently and ur interest is to keep bug free, all you'll need is both those products. but if ur already infected or have a high pest pressure, my suggestion when "infected" you'll need that extra aid to win the war.
both products listed above they do not apply a wetting agent built in = main reason is because if u used it as a drench it would foam, if other products if u mixed already had or did not want wetting agents u could still use it np. I would suggest using yucca extract
a suggestion for biocontrols application is apply these every 7-14 days ( rep told me even for mites their products mode of action does same 7-14 days vs every 3 days), if bug issue apply at rate of eggs hatch and add a "knockout " mixed with it. I only use the knockout as least often as I can and I also know majority of knockouts have a known issue of making pest harder and easier for the pest to become resistant . this is why biocontrol pesticides hit that advantage because pest will not become resistant of that. another huge game changer for safety as a grower but also can be used to harvest if needed. a huge tip towards my schedule for the grandevo/venerate is to apply every up to 5-7th week of bloom and if u don't see any any pest population , stop spraying those products than and that will save ya cash . but the issues without those products lets say u only used traditional pesticides, majority really shouldn't be used after b buds are forming for multiple reasons .
like my guide said on SOP, if pest occurs I would suggest a knockout mixed in like spinosad (captain jacks/conserve sc) or Pyrethrum. using these two knockouts and a mix of those two biocontrols will def wipe em out. key is your spraying schedule cause there's no reason to waste the expensive knockouts , sad part is most traditional pest cost are if not 10x+ more expensive per gal than bio pesticides .
schedule if attack:
knockout #1 (example spinosad ) mixed with Grandevo + wetting agent
7 days later , pest pressure scan the area for how much of a impact and if population is getting worse but also the age cycle of the pest. if pest are still there , apply knockout #2 + biocontrol , example Venerate ( just opposites every time ) + wetting agent
7 days later, keep scanning and see if pests pressure is lowering or same/higher. if same as previous week or looks like pest are lowering apply only apply ur biocontrol pesticide , meaning foliar spray Grandevo ( just rotating ) + wetting agent . difference is you are not using that expensive knockout every 3-4th time but also having a multiple mode defense .
if your pest issues while scanning shows they are coming back or pressure isnt going down. I would suggest intill u can't apply the knockouts anymore in flower to do that multiple rotation ipm with knockouts. the benefit after ur pest pressure for indoors is done. unless u don't have a sealed room or bringing in pest, by applying a biocontrol pesticide every 7-14 days as a ipm after infections and to cement that defense mode. whatcha know im bug free unless I do stupid shit and if I do I can def fuck em up. key is if I was using traditional only and tried to do it weekly not only would pest would become way tougher to kill but also if u look at many of the products they also can put bad residue on ur environment and also the cost alone. doing something as a IPM always in a cycle infill last few weeks made al the diff from worrying of the bugs vs knowing I have a invisible defense that attracts the bugs and they will die and also become zombies if so.
the reason I never suggest using one golden ticket product because more I learn about how these products function ( majority of knockouts have cycle limits and many cons) its no wonder many products cannot kill or win a long term battle with a semi large pest issue. the key is scanning and having a cement ipm but also knowing u need a multi function/mode attack if they are there but if the pest isnt its always suggested to have the 7-14 days biocontrols sprayed to make sure 200+ pest if in room pick the fungi/bacteria over ur plant and die.
since only 2 knockouts and 2 biocontrols go back to first spray and repeat. if no pest just use grandevo and venerate and your set! if my wording doesn't make sense or im lacking something ( this is all free written and stoned lol)
knockouts I was suggesting :
evergreen pyrethrum = best bang for ur buck on pyrethrum , the same thing but organic label is 3x+ more)
Conserve SC
expensive version.. 800 bucks LOL
another issue people have is they over spray and use a hand spray. majority of manuals you'll read they say "no droplets" and full covered needed. the more I advised and watched others its also another reason if a non systemic product cannot work if they are over spraying and making droplets vs full mist and making sure all of it got sprayed. ive tried many brands of sprayed but man this is nice but also I can spray 10-20 times on a 1 gal before charge and it saves me spray % vs a hand pump. paid for itself first season
RYOBI ONE+ 18V Cordless Battery 1 Gal. Chemical Sprayer with 1.3 Ah Battery and Charger P2810 - The Home Depot
Enter the RYOBI 18V ONE+ System with the 18V ONE+ 1 Gallon Chemical Sprayer Kit. The powerful motor provides ease of use and convenience with just the pull of a trigger, no pumping required and spray up to 30 gallons per charge. Easily choose your spray pattern with the adjustable nozzle. The 1...
www.homedepot.com
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Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
You’re awesome man..k I just ordered captain jacks, and I already have spinosad, and I ordered the pyrethrum..and I ordered yucca extract..tomorrow I have to run to the cities more so I’m gonna get that sprayer from Home Depot….I know I’ve kinda went over this with you before but I didn’t get half the shit you told me to before but this time I’m all in, I’ve been like depressed almost lately and I just realized it’s cause my garden is usually top notch and it’s been so shitty lately it’s kind of embarrassing…it’ll be bad to normal in a couple weeks nowper gallon
Venerate - 1-5 T ( use 1-2 for no bugs and raise dosage to 3-5T if bugs are there) = the terps of these fungi attract it and as a good ipm these need to be sprayed weekly to keep the attraction but also effectiveness of being able to not have any pest pressure.
Grandevo - 1-3T per gallon
https://cdn.commercev3.net/cdn.arbico-organics.com/downloads/small_tank_mixes_Marrone%20products.pdf
if you don't have a pest pressure issue currently and ur interest is to keep bug free, all you'll need is both those products. but if ur already infected or have a high pest pressure, my suggestion when "infected" you'll need that extra aid to win the war.
both products listed above they do not apply a wetting agent built in = main reason is because if u used it as a drench it would foam, if other products if u mixed already had or did not want wetting agents u could still use it np. I would suggest using yucca extract
a suggestion for biocontrols application is apply these every 7-14 days ( rep told me even for mites their products mode of action does same 7-14 days vs every 3 days), if bug issue apply at rate of eggs hatch and add a "knockout " mixed with it. I only use the knockout as least often as I can and I also know majority of knockouts have a known issue of making pest harder and easier for the pest to become resistant . this is why biocontrol pesticides hit that advantage because pest will not become resistant of that. another huge game changer for safety as a grower but also can be used to harvest if needed. a huge tip towards my schedule for the grandevo/venerate is to apply every up to 5-7th week of bloom and if u don't see any any pest population , stop spraying those products than and that will save ya cash . but the issues without those products lets say u only used traditional pesticides, majority really shouldn't be used after b buds are forming for multiple reasons .
like my guide said on SOP, if pest occurs I would suggest a knockout mixed in like spinosad (captain jacks/conserve sc) or Pyrethrum. using these two knockouts and a mix of those two biocontrols will def wipe em out. key is your spraying schedule cause there's no reason to waste the expensive knockouts , sad part is most traditional pest cost are if not 10x+ more expensive per gal than bio pesticides .
schedule if attack:
knockout #1 (example spinosad ) mixed with Grandevo + wetting agent
7 days later , pest pressure scan the area for how much of a impact and if population is getting worse but also the age cycle of the pest. if pest are still there , apply knockout #2 + biocontrol , example Venerate ( just opposites every time ) + wetting agent
7 days later, keep scanning and see if pests pressure is lowering or same/higher. if same as previous week or looks like pest are lowering apply only apply ur biocontrol pesticide , meaning foliar spray Grandevo ( just rotating ) + wetting agent . difference is you are not using that expensive knockout every 3-4th time but also having a multiple mode defense .
if your pest issues while scanning shows they are coming back or pressure isnt going down. I would suggest intill u can't apply the knockouts anymore in flower to do that multiple rotation ipm with knockouts. the benefit after ur pest pressure for indoors is done. unless u don't have a sealed room or bringing in pest, by applying a biocontrol pesticide every 7-14 days as a ipm after infections and to cement that defense mode. whatcha know im bug free unless I do stupid shit and if I do I can def fuck em up. key is if I was using traditional only and tried to do it weekly not only would pest would become way tougher to kill but also if u look at many of the products they also can put bad residue on ur environment and also the cost alone. doing something as a IPM always in a cycle infill last few weeks made al the diff from worrying of the bugs vs knowing I have a invisible defense that attracts the bugs and they will die and also become zombies if so.
the reason I never suggest using one golden ticket product because more I learn about how these products function ( majority of knockouts have cycle limits and many cons) its no wonder many products cannot kill or win a long term battle with a semi large pest issue. the key is scanning and having a cement ipm but also knowing u need a multi function/mode attack if they are there but if the pest isnt its always suggested to have the 7-14 days biocontrols sprayed to make sure 200+ pest if in room pick the fungi/bacteria over ur plant and die.
since only 2 knockouts and 2 biocontrols go back to first spray and repeat. if no pest just use grandevo and venerate and your set! if my wording doesn't make sense or im lacking something ( this is all free written and stoned lol)
knockouts I was suggesting :
evergreen pyrethrum = best bang for ur buck on pyrethrum , the same thing but organic label is 3x+ more)
Spinosad! conserve sc = that will last u for life, alt brand but more expensive over all is captain jacks dead bug. just like evergreen if u get "entrust sc" which is same company, same thing and quality.. just labeling and 5x+ in cost
Conserve SC
expensive version.. 800 bucks LOL
another issue people have is they over spray and use a hand spray. majority of manuals you'll read they say "no droplets" and full covered needed. the more I advised and watched others its also another reason if a non systemic product cannot work if they are over spraying and making droplets vs full mist and making sure all of it got sprayed. ive tried many brands of sprayed but man this is nice but also I can spray 10-20 times on a 1 gal before charge and it saves me spray % vs a hand pump. paid for itself first season
RYOBI ONE+ 18V Cordless Battery 1 Gal. Chemical Sprayer with 1.3 Ah Battery and Charger P2810 - The Home Depot
Enter the RYOBI 18V ONE+ System with the 18V ONE+ 1 Gallon Chemical Sprayer Kit. The powerful motor provides ease of use and convenience with just the pull of a trigger, no pumping required and spray up to 30 gallons per charge. Easily choose your spray pattern with the adjustable nozzle. The 1...www.homedepot.com
Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
We all go through it brother ? it's what makes the good runs that much better . Hope it's swift and easy man
Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
Thanks frim it just sucks cause I was given all the information from bh like 6 months ago and I was just lazy and used spinosad and some sticky traps and called it good well now it’s real bad again I half assed it and that’s not normally my style…idk I’m kinda mad at myself
Ramjet159
pHeno pHisher
I did similar with my spidermite issue . Stuffed around for too long before realising I had to pull everything apart and strip / treat the tent
MO_Grow
Underground Chucker
Same. He tried to lead me to water, but I wouldn't drink. It's time I drink... Or at least take a sip?... Just got mine too
I went small bottles to test the waters. If they work like as well as attested, to I'll go bigger in the future?
Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
Well I think the wife is gonna kill me….the place next to my work was cleaning this out today so I walked over and asked what they where doing and he said selling it, it was there mobile office that they used at car shows it has a ceiling fan in it and electric ran in it it has 2 windows on the other side and 2 sliding doors on the front…I told him I’d give him $500 jokingly and he says sold…so I sent the wife a pic and said look at our new smoking lounge lol
Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Dude that's badasssssss . Great grab!! See it can never hurt to ask
Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
It actually is pretty nice too idk where I’m going to put it I already have a shed in my backyard…I do have some land outside of town that I might put it for now…I figure the wood is probably worth that much lol…the frame is actually a metal storage container thing
Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Too bad you can't put it up against the back end of the garage or something like that. The smoking lounge is a great ideaThe smoking lounge is a great idea
Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
And I’m not in the doghouse the wife sent me a message back and said that thing is fuckin sweet so that’s a plus
Bubby's n da lab
Blue Collar Beans
that's sweet
I know what I would do meat
I'd see how many 5gal buckets it would hold
lol
Meatman
? Master of Meat ?
That was my other thought the city won’t let me have it in my backyard I’m gonna put her underground lol have a underground grow room lol
thenotsoesoteric
American Ninja
The wood and the doors are worth it.
