Mushroom Cultivation

[OldG]

i gave my 31 year old 10 X boomers...each 1 to 1.2 grams...take it easy etc.

He said I am not a fan of the PE i go to this sepia brown place...I asked with indian ancestors??? yup...OMG you are going to love yetis.

He called me this morning and said holy shit dad...i may have travelled time...NOW THATS A BOOMER TRIP !!!

 

[OldG]

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Actually ESO was the one who reminded me who was FROM MELMAC !

 

[Dirtbag]

@Dirtbag Thanks man ! Amazons are off the list !

I am trying to avoid that very thing. PE I find does that as well. Way too spiritually trippy and introspective.

Yeah I wasn't a big fan of PE or APE either. Super intense, but not in an enjoyable way. I believe, and I may be wrong but I think I read somewhere that PE was originally clone isolated from a mutant Amazonian by Terrence. I believe it, they had a very similar effect on me.
If you get a chance to grow the KSSS I'd highly recommend it. Puts you in a state of awe, and comes with very nice visuals, more than any other cubes I've grown hands down.

 

[OldG]

I will add KSSS to the list...before Jedi Mind Fuck!

 

[Dirtbag]

It's kind of a shame that the two strains I grew that I didn't care much for, were also the biggest producers.
Golden teachers got huge.

And the Amazon's got huge too, and had the most insane Azure blue brusing. Like super vibrant blue. Scared me before I even ate them lol.

 

[OldG]

If they make your lips shrivel.... BZZZ pop Pop

Funny thing...i have shit to do..i have to do the front end of my camry tomorrow (inner and outer tie rods, new KYB struts and a sway link and ball joint on standby)...but i want to do a boomer.

I am glad i didn't touch them for 25 years because now i truly appreciate the journey.

Last year around this time i did 3 grams of BLUE as a smurf PE and spent the night in the dark in the back yard...watched the leaves fall off of 2 trees until they were naked the next morning...heard the windigo....felt things grow from my feet in the earth (barefoot man...its the only way to trip when the grass is soft).

Glad i have a more fun boomer now...but i want to hit the loss of ego at some point...

I will grow enough to make it happen...but for now i just enjoy slipping into the edge of the stream...being one with those dancing boomers...and the astral plane.

Oh and i dont regrent any boomer trip...even the insane took way too much PE...man was i tripping. Its the gut thing that made me hate them. But yetis NEVER screw my guts up. They are not all the same by a long shot.

My next rounds will be

Yeti, blue meanies and...costa ricans...but first ...lets make some OG PE...i havent see great great great...g.g.g.g.g.g. granddad...in a few months.

Lets gather round the fire...

I am 1/8th first nations...and I do not have a card...i have lived my whole life not knowing my heritage...now i learn from boomer trips.

And i am not complaining..i joke but its pretty cool sitting around the fire with ancient tribal spirits...talking to you...REVERBERATING through your skull like a hurricane of wind with words...
I think its the ancestry..but maybe other people go to the fire ?

 

[Dirtbag]

If they make your lips shrivel.... BZZZ pop Pop

Funny thing...i have shit to do..i have to do the front end of my camry tomorrow (inner and outer tie rods, new KYB struts and a sway link and ball joint on standby)...but i want to do a boomer.

I am glad i didn't touch them for 25 years because now i truly appreciate the journey.

Last year around this time i did 3 grams of BLUE as a smurf PE and spent the night in the dark in the back yard...watched the leaves fall off of 2 trees until they were naked the next morning...heard the windigo....felt things grow from my feet in the earth (barefoot man...its the only way to trip when the grass is soft).

Glad i have a more fun boomer now...but i want to hit the loss of ego at some point...

I will grow enough to make it happen...but for now i just enjoy slipping into the edge of the stream...being one with those dancing boomers...and the astral plane.

Oh and i dont regrent any boomer trip...even the insane took way too much PE...man was i tripping. Its the gut thing that made me hate them. But yetis NEVER screw my guts up. They are not all the same by a long shot.

My next rounds will be

Yeti, blue meanies and...costa ricans...but first ...lets make some OG PE...i havent see great great great...g.g.g.g.g.g. granddad...in a few months.

Lets gather round the fire...

I am 1/8th first nations...and I do not have a card...i have lived my whole life not knowing my heritage...now i learn from boomer trips.

And i am not complaining..i joke but its pretty cool sitting around the fire with ancient tribal spirits...talking to you...REVERBERATING through your skull like a hurricane of wind with words...
I think its the ancestry..but maybe other people go to the fire ?

That reminded me of an intense trip I had about 15 years ago at my friends birthday party in the bush. We booked every single site at a campground on Native land and hired the Natives that ran it to fish salmon from the river that ran through the site for us, and just generally take care of us that night since all 30 or so of us were gonna be tripping. They were very cool folks.

Deep into the trip that night, one of the native girls there that decided to do mushrooms with us was having a super bad trip, and her and I had been talking quite a bit and got along really well so she was kinda looking to me to take care of her while she was high. She was leaning into me shivering and I was just hugging her to keep her warm and calm her down, and while we were off to the side of the main party, kinda hiding from the crowd against the treeline, I saw the craziest thing. The flicker from the large bonfire bouncing shadows around in the trees surrounding us was causing all kinds of strange visuals, but suddenly, and as clear as day I saw what appeared to be, honestly like ghosts.. full on silhouettes of natives in full ceremonial dress standing just behind the treeline in a row but not actually coming out of the forest. Tripped me out so bad, I could see large feathered headdress' so clearly but couldn't focus on any one figure, as soon as I'd try and focus in all I would see is the dark trees again with flickering bonfire light. But as soon as I'd zoom out my focus, bam, there they were again. Watching me comfort one of their decendants. It was, to this day, one of the most spiritually bizarre things I've ever experienced. Humbling.

 

[Brokehoe]

Took the leap

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

Took the leap
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Hell i totally forgot about doc when I ordered spores. Should be legit as can be.

 

[Brokehoe]

Hell i totally forgot about doc when I ordered spores. Should be legit as can be.

@Idlewilder recommended them, I'm gonna be asking a lot of questions. I hope he and @Meatman don't mind when I blow up their inbox and anyone else that can help.
I'm still deciding on how I want to go about this.
I'm following your adventure closely
I'm so excited

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

@Idlewilder recommended them, I'm gonna be asking a lot of questions. I hope he and @Meatman don't mind when I blow up their inbox and anyone else that can help.
I'm still deciding on how I want to go about this.
I'm following your adventure closely
I'm so excited

Nice! This is my first go around with shrooms so fingers crossed.

Hopefully I can help out if you ever need anything. I think the jars or the vacuum bags are the way to go if you want bulk. Im hoping just to get a 1/4 oz or better from my experiments. Though I could get up to an ounce im hoping but just depends on what pheno these spires throw me.

Next go round im getting liquid culture. It'll be a toss up on what but probably yetis for the buzz or blue meanies for color. Maybe melmacs but the melmacs and the meanies are maybe more potent than I'd prefer. That PE scares me.

 

[Brokehoe]

Nice! This is my first go around with shrooms so fingers crossed.

Good luck and thanks for kind words

That PE scares me.

Yeah those @OldG descriptions scare the hell out of me. ?
Jedi Mind Fuck is next on my list. If this goes well

 

[OldG]

Its Sunday....the one my wife works and that is a boomer day for me. I think today i will look at what is in the kit. I will soon have a nice clean place to do it (spare bedroom after a fresh paint job)..

I am going to probably go through this entire forum thread again to learn what i can about what to expect. While my NFL tickets crash and burn at least i can learn about the mushroom kingdom.

I am really glad to see people contributing here...all the pics are very helpful and for a very long time I thought they were very difficult to grow. But I know I can do it now !

So thanks to everyone offering advice !

 

[Meatman]

Its Sunday....the one my wife works and that is a boomer day for me. I think today i will look at what is in the kit. I will soon have a nice clean place to do it (spare bedroom after a fresh paint job)..

I am going to probably go through this entire forum thread again to learn what i can about what to expect. While my NFL tickets crash and burn at least i can learn about the mushroom kingdom.

I am really glad to see people contributing here...all the pics are very helpful and for a very long time I thought they were very difficult to grow. But I know I can do it now !

So thanks to everyone offering advice !

Dude I was nervous at first but man it’s pretty simple

Inject jars
Wait to fully colonize for me it’s usually about three weeks
Soak cakes in water overnight
Put cakes in tubs with perlite
Give them very little light mine get 8 hours a day
Wait for boomers to come

I don’t get a ton like some of these guys but it’s plenty for me I probably have close to a pound right now so we will be good for probably a year or longer lol

We all see your beautiful plants you grow you got this no problem you will knock them out of the park for sure

 

[Idlewilder]

Its Sunday....the one my wife works and that is a boomer day for me. I think today i will look at what is in the kit. I will soon have a nice clean place to do it (spare bedroom after a fresh paint job)..

I am going to probably go through this entire forum thread again to learn what i can about what to expect. While my NFL tickets crash and burn at least i can learn about the mushroom kingdom.

I am really glad to see people contributing here...all the pics are very helpful and for a very long time I thought they were very difficult to grow. But I know I can do it now !

So thanks to everyone offering advice !

If you can grow weed, you can grow mushrooms…and I KNOW you can grow weed lol. Show them the same love and respect as your plants and they will reward you

 

[Dirtbag]

Do most of you do vermiculite cakes? Or spawn to bulk?
I see most of you work with syringes which can be unpredictable. If fruiting straight from a syringe it does make more sense to use BRF vermiculite cakes.
If you have a flow hood or are pretty good with a still air box, isolating and segmenting mycelium on Agar is not that difficult. It's easy to make a couple dozen petri dishes at a time. It's a bit more work to get to the finished product, but when you do the flushes are usually much more consistent.

Really, the only pieces of equipment needed is a 23q pressure cooker and SAB, and some dishes, scalpels, parafilm,.. its a much cheaper hobby to start compared to growing pot. If you really go all in, invest in a flow hood. Either homemade or pre-built. It cuts down on rates of infection greatly.

 

[Brokehoe]

Do most of you do vermiculite cakes? Or spawn to bulk?
I see most of you work with syringes which can be unpredictable. If fruiting straight from a syringe it does make more sense to use BRF vermiculite cakes.
If you have a flow hood or are pretty good with a still air box, isolating and segmenting mycelium on Agar is not that difficult. It's easy to make a couple dozen petri dishes at a time. It's a bit more work to get to the finished product, but when you do the flushes are usually much more consistent.

Really, the only pieces of equipment needed is a 23q pressure cooker and SAB, and some dishes, scalpels, parafilm,.. its a much cheaper hobby to start compared to growing pot. If you really go all in, invest in a flow hood. Either homemade or pre-built. It cuts down on rates of infection greatly.

I'm just starting so I really have no clue. I do hope you elaborate. I have the pressure cooker but plan on getting one from second hand just for this purpose.
I have bags of mycelium (blue oyster, chicken of the woods)I plan on setting to agar but still haven't found exact instructions. I slow and need like a for idiots video. ?
I'm doing tons of research before I jump in, but feel it's time to get started.

 

[Dirtbag]

I'm just starting so I really have no clue. I do hope you elaborate. I have the pressure cooker but plan on getting one from second hand just for this purpose.
I have bags of mycelium (blue oyster, chicken of the woods)I plan on setting to agar but still haven't found exact instructions. I slow and need like a for idiots video. ?
I'm doing tons of research before I jump in, but feel it's time to get started.

I'm certainly no expert, not by a long shot.
But basically a spore is like an offspring, and each offspring can have slightly different traits. So when you inject a syringe into grain or vermiculite, you don't really know A, How many different genetic variations will colonize the cake, or B, how productive those variations will be. Some mycelium doesn't produce many mushrooms, and some will be heavy fruiting.

What friends of mine do is inject the spores from the syringe onto Agar first. After a week or so they will be able to identify strong mycelium on the Agar, and what they are looking for is the junction where to seperate spores have germinated, and their mycellium has grown into each other and connected. That exact location where they have connected will be cut out with a scalpel and transferred to another Agar plate to continue growing. From there, they will select and cut out strong pieces of rhizomorphic mycellium and transfer them to seperate Agar plates.

These plates once fully colonized will be cut into about 8-10 wedges and each wedge placed into a jar of sterilized grain to make grain spawn. Which is then bulked to media in a monotub or shoebox.

From there, the most productive fruits are cloned to agar and the strain is isolated.

 

[Idlewilder]

I'm certainly no expert, not by a long shot.
But basically a spore is like an offspring, and each offspring can have slightly different traits. So when you inject a syringe into grain or vermiculite, you don't really know A, How many different genetic variations will colonize the cake, or B, how productive those variations will be. Some mycelium doesn't produce many mushrooms, and some will be heavy fruiting.

What friends of mine do is inject the spores from the syringe onto Agar first. After a week or so they will be able to identify strong mycelium on the Agar, and what they are looking for is the junction where to seperate spores have germinated, and their mycellium has grown into each other and connected. That exact location where they have connected will be cut out with a scalpel and transferred to another Agar plate to continue growing. From there, they will select and cut out strong pieces of rhizomorphic mycellium and transfer them to seperate Agar plates.

These plates once fully colonized will be cut into about 8-10 wedges and each wedge placed into a jar of sterilized grain to make grain spawn. Which is then bulked to media in a monotub or shoebox.

From there, the most productive fruits are cloned to agar and the strain is isolated.

It’s kind of like a pheno hunt when putting syringe to grain without selecting for strength. I’m planning to clone the best fruits from my bulk tub and going from there. In the meantime, I’ll have fruits to enjoy

 

[Deebs]

There are some great resources here, in the form of ebooks that lays out a lot of the parameters.

Personally I began by using ryeberry spawn bags, once colonated mixed to coir/verm/wc sub that was made using steam sterilization method, added to 2 - 15qt containers. Basically 2 -1lb spawn bags to 1/2 batch sub (batch originally was 8cups verm/1 brick coir without wc.) Goes in each container, layered like lasagna.

I made quite a few LC jars by first isolating on agar. Instead of agar to grain, take agar to mixture of distilled water/karo liquid corn syrup 4% sugars is where you want. Mycelium will grow in the mixture visibly, I use a magnetic stir bar to keep it chopped up. This way creating grain spawn, plates, more lc innoculation etc is super easy, fast, and consistent....