Rasterman
In Bloom
That's all great to hear. With this grow I'm trying to do it the way my mom used to. I never saw her using fertilizers or pesticides and she was always talking about things like insecticidal soap. I'm moving in that direction.
My Dark Magnet Unicorn Journey
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MO_Grow
Underground Chucker
? Nice! Momma ain't wrong!! And there's always something new to learn. You're on the right track brother?
BH
Tha Dank Hoarder
i did a compare in my last two rounds of my 10 gal beds , some beds had 1 and some had 2. Results was obvious this round when I had exact same clone and they looked the same when planted than at end there’s always a dominate overtaken and the plant that’s it’s bitch per say is 30% or more smaller, but if your lower veg and want to keep sog completely filled in. Could see it needed ( hate wasted light spaces )
awesome grow style and awesome garden
awesome grow style and awesome garden
Rasterman
In Bloom
I didn't let the leftover bud dry completely before using it as mulch, and some of the alcohol was still in some of the mulch. I spread it completely, and it killed everything it touched.
So most of the smaller plants died. Now I'm probably down to 15 plants.
Today I added a layer of rice hulls to the mulch. I haven't seen any gnats yet, but don't want to.
I may put them on 12s this weekend... Still thinking about it.
So most of the smaller plants died. Now I'm probably down to 15 plants.
Today I added a layer of rice hulls to the mulch. I haven't seen any gnats yet, but don't want to.
I may put them on 12s this weekend... Still thinking about it.
Rasterman
In Bloom
BCF1#1 is well into flowering and looks nearly identical to her Chick Magnet mother. Her buds aren't quite as filled out as the Chick Magnet "control," but they seem a little tighter and I'm hoping each bud will be larger.
Here are a few pictures for your viewing pleasure.....
Here are a few pictures for your viewing pleasure.....
Rasterman
In Bloom
The living soil bed - I've done some culling and a lot of defoliation to help manage competition for light.
I also planted the BCF1#1 clone in the very center. I just opened the tent to take this picture and a skunky, loudish smell rolled out. I did some stem rubs and it's the clone. Much louder than the rest, though one other one comes close.
I believe there are 16 plants in there now and could be a few more. I'm considering culling one of the plants which doesn't look as healthy as the rest. But I'll give it a few days and see how it goes.
I also planted the BCF1#1 clone in the very center. I just opened the tent to take this picture and a skunky, loudish smell rolled out. I did some stem rubs and it's the clone. Much louder than the rest, though one other one comes close.
I believe there are 16 plants in there now and could be a few more. I'm considering culling one of the plants which doesn't look as healthy as the rest. But I'll give it a few days and see how it goes.
Rasterman
In Bloom
There are only three plants left that haven't shown sex (the younger ones). And so far, they're all female. So I ordered some reversal spray from Twenty20 Genetics just in case. If I don't get any males, the youngest plants will have to be reversed.
But they're growing like crazy. I am really liking living soil.
So much so that I'm going to have to figure out how to raise my light further than the supplied hardware allows.
But they're growing like crazy. I am really liking living soil.
So much so that I'm going to have to figure out how to raise my light further than the supplied hardware allows.
Rasterman
In Bloom
I'm thinking out loud. Any advice is welcome...
Well, it's official. Out of 16 remaining plants not ONE is male. I'm really torn. I could just:
Anyone have suggestions or advice?
Well, it's official. Out of 16 remaining plants not ONE is male. I'm really torn. I could just:
- ...bag the whole project (done that before but not after this much hope and effort).
- ...switch them back to veg, take clones and pheno hunt, then reverse one of the best two females and breed them together. Then pheno hunt the seeds for a few fire clones and decide what to do later. I don't have time for that option because of travel plans this year.
- Reverse one branch on every plant and proceed to create a maximum diversity batch of female seeds. A lot of them would be S1s which isn't close to the ideal I had in mind. Plus, half of the diversity is just gone. I don't mind the daily spraying - I've done it before with excellent results. But I've always carried the pot outside and that's not an option because it's 20 gallons. That's pretty heavy. Which means I'd have to invest in some real PPE. I'd also have to decide how to produce the right males from scratch. This would allow me to remain on schedule at least.
Anyone have suggestions or advice?
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Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Yeah that's a tough one. Just take cuts to ensure you have your phenotypes and go from there? I guess it really depends on what's most important to you? It sucks. It's happened to me a few times where I pop 30 to 50 seeds and don't get the male 'm looking for. Good to have a backup plan just in case too. Best of luck brother
Rasterman
In Bloom
Thanks for the suggestion and sympathy lol. I guess next time I don't cull anything until I know.
Frimpong
🔥Freak Genetics🔥
Just don't ever settle. That's something that can happen if you only see a couple phenos. You culled those males for a reason. Sometimes stuff isn't in the stars .
Rasterman
In Bloom
Good advice. The one plant that I've been flowering will be complete in about a month and I still have a couple of clones. I'm going to keep that clone until I know whether I got lucky, and kill the rest of them and move on.
Sometime later I may pheno hunt two new parents and start over. Since I didn't do a pheno hunt with the original parents (the matron was a single feminized Chick Magnet seed and the patron was the first black widow male I sprouted), I can call this an ill-fated experiment and just move on to the next thing.
Another thing I learned is that if you crowd a bunch of plants into a single pot, you'd better be thinking about how tall the plants will get as a result. I'll take that into consideration next time too.
So this venture is done. I already have a Golden Tiger v3 sprout that can take this spot as soon as it's ready for transplant. My next open pollination project will take place in individual pots, as will any future pheno hunts. And never again will I start an open pollination project without clones, even if I don't plan pheno hunting until the F2 generation like this time.
Sometime later I may pheno hunt two new parents and start over. Since I didn't do a pheno hunt with the original parents (the matron was a single feminized Chick Magnet seed and the patron was the first black widow male I sprouted), I can call this an ill-fated experiment and just move on to the next thing.
Another thing I learned is that if you crowd a bunch of plants into a single pot, you'd better be thinking about how tall the plants will get as a result. I'll take that into consideration next time too.
So this venture is done. I already have a Golden Tiger v3 sprout that can take this spot as soon as it's ready for transplant. My next open pollination project will take place in individual pots, as will any future pheno hunts. And never again will I start an open pollination project without clones, even if I don't plan pheno hunting until the F2 generation like this time.
Rasterman
In Bloom
I still have the BCF1#1 clone and may make some entries about that pheno as things progress. In the meantime, allow me to share how this grow ended up:
If my dad could see this, he'd tell those damn hippies to get off the property.
I've already got a one day old Golden Tiger V3 in their place.
If my dad could see this, he'd tell those damn hippies to get off the property.
I've already got a one day old Golden Tiger V3 in their place.
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Rasterman
In Bloom
The BCF1#1 clone is still a month away from harvest and is living up to the name of this thread because the leaves are indeed dark. I'm worried it's suffering from nitrogen toxicity and plan to flush it in the next few days. But it may have also gotten a double dose of its Chick Magnet mother's purpling. I hope. She's frosty courtesy of her Black Widow father, which is what I was hoping to see.
After harvest I'll be sending a sample out for testing and will post the results here.
After harvest I'll be sending a sample out for testing and will post the results here.
Rasterman
In Bloom
I decided to flush today. When the BCF1#1 clone was in veg I was experimenting with composted chicken poop as a topdress and I'm pretty sure I overdid it. So I removed the mulch and flushed it for 20 minutes using PH balanced water from my hose. I'm on a well with a water softener and this method usually (not always) fixes problems with overfeeding for me.
I suspect that the dark leaves are caused by a combination of genetics, too-intense light and nitrogen toxicity and at least expect the minor clawing and yellow on the end of the leaves to correct itself. Hopefully she'll keep purpling but I'll let you know.
I suspect that the dark leaves are caused by a combination of genetics, too-intense light and nitrogen toxicity and at least expect the minor clawing and yellow on the end of the leaves to correct itself. Hopefully she'll keep purpling but I'll let you know.
Rasterman
In Bloom
Before I took her out of the grow room, she managed to knock up her aunt - the sibling of her mother - the Chick Magnet clone that I put in the room a week or so behind her. I should be unhappy about it, but actually I just feel like a proud father.
The one that hermed was completely not ready. My wife said it's weak but helps her sleep. I'm not surprised, given that her trichomes were mostly clear when I chopped her. But the dark leaves and now, the subtle and sweet creamy smell the buds are giving off after a few days in the jar, I'll definitely be running this clone again. And now I have an additional backup in the form of feminized seeds! Not a lot of seeds, but 20 wouldn't surprise me.
So I'm pretty stoked about it now.
The one that hermed was completely not ready. My wife said it's weak but helps her sleep. I'm not surprised, given that her trichomes were mostly clear when I chopped her. But the dark leaves and now, the subtle and sweet creamy smell the buds are giving off after a few days in the jar, I'll definitely be running this clone again. And now I have an additional backup in the form of feminized seeds! Not a lot of seeds, but 20 wouldn't surprise me.
So I'm pretty stoked about it now.
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