Cheese

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
Hi,

Does anyone know if there's a list of some sort that shows what Cheese strains? I understand UK Cheese is a Phenotype, but there's other Cheeses and I'd love more info.

I've heard of White Cheese, and Purple Cheese, and Blue Cheese that I have as my number 1 favorite, but has anyone here ever used any of them in crosses ?
 

Meatman

? Master of Meat ?
Hi,

Does anyone know if there's a list of some sort that shows what Cheese strains? I understand UK Cheese is a Phenotype, but there's other Cheeses and I'd love more info.

I've heard of White Cheese, and Purple Cheese, and Blue Cheese that I have as my number 1 favorite, but has anyone here ever used any of them in crosses ?
I grew a blue cheese awhile back I think it was Barney’s farm or something like that and it was actually a very nice strain that yielded nicely too
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
I grew a blue cheese awhile back I think it was Barney’s farm or something like that and it was actually a very nice strain that yielded nicely too
Oh bro I know what you mean! Blue Cheese was the very first strain I ever grew and this was my third year growing it, and even the taken late and put outside clones that were barely chest high on me including the pot filled two jars or so each.... amazing production, fairly easy to grow, and that smell..... ? thank God they're easier to grow lol. Eventually I want to do some crosses with it and experiment.
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
cheese is a pheno in skunk #1 that was founded in the late 80’s and than in mid 90’s in seed form and for sale



 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
I've known Cheese was a Phenotype and it has gotten me wondering if someone crossed Skunk #1 with Blueberry would it be similar depending on the selection and I'd kinda love to do that lol
Barney farms has stabilized version of that and has been around for almost a decade , awesome mix of both blueberry and cheese and if their gear is good when i tried it. Def good stuff


the humboldt csi cross i just did with cheese had a great combo of cheese and vanilla/earth. thing was adding wedding cake i def noitced the over alll bag appeal was better than tradional cheese or skunk 1

Csi rocks (all his gesr ive ran is a+), gear rocks!

 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
Ok this might sound more stupid but when someone says S1, what does that mean? I just got passed BX1 meaning back crossed, but S1 I'm not sure about.

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  • BX (Backcross)​

Cannabis breeders use backcrossing to strengthen a specific trait, such as resistance to a certain pest. This involves taking the first generation hybrid offspring and crossing it with a clone of one of its parents. In essence, backcrossing is a form of inbreeding that helps to diminish alleles from one parent and stabilise specific traits from the other parent.

Backcrossing helps to eradicate bad traits and lock in desirable ones. By crossing a progeny with one of its parents, the new offspring will feature the genetic background of one parent and the interesting gene/genes from the other. This strengthens the traits sought after by the breeders, and increases the likelihood of them appearing more abundantly in future generations.

Backcrosses are usually labelled BX1, 2, 3 etc., with the number reflecting the generation of the cross.

  • S1​

S1 is a term used to describe the first generation of cannabis seeds produced by crossing a cannabis cultivar with itself. While there are different ways to do this, most breeders use stress to force a female plant into producing pollen and pollinating itself—a process known as “selfing”.




a lot good info:

 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
I guess selfing sounds better then "stress her out till she fucks herself" lol. Thank you! I think Hydrored explained back crossing too me, but I don't see S1 very often so I had no idea.

So theoretically I can take Blue Cheese and cross that with GMO, cross that offspring back with Blue Cheese and I'd have an S1?
 

MtRainDog

In Bloom
I guess selfing sounds better then "stress her out till she fucks herself" lol. Thank you! I think Hydrored explained back crossing too me, but I don't see S1 very often so I had no idea.

So theoretically I can take Blue Cheese and cross that with GMO, cross that offspring back with Blue Cheese and I'd have an S1?

No,

(GMO x BC) x BC will give you BC BX1. Kinda weird though because I'm not sure what reg seeds you're actually working with.

If you reverse a BC female clone, take that pollen and hit another clone of the same BC, the resulting seeds are S1 seeds of your BC clone.
 

MtRainDog

In Bloom
Typically a backcross would involve a clone only, and a good outcrosser male. A better example would be

I have a GMO clone, and Blue Cheese reg seeds...

I want a GMO back cross...

Your breeding efforts would be as such:

GMO x {GMO x BC} --> bx1

GMO x (GMO x {GMO x BC}) --> bx2

GMO x [GMO x (GMO x {GMO x BC})] --> bx3

etc. etc.
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
just like doing self pollen aka and selfing/using fem pollen , if you haven't tested or others to see if its actually stable enough for crosses. sometimes that method or mixture or certain strains def bring out the unstable genetics.

this is what spotlights from experiments/chucking to cemented/stabilized hybrids . a good example is many strains can work good by itself but trying to make it S1 project or crossing it with a male doesn't show any of the desired results or instability of genetics.

this is why pheno hunting isn't just assuming that male or mother unless well cemented its stable will even show their parents, this is why even in everything like humans, both ur parents could be body builders, perfect bodies but they could produce midgets or undesired mixtures.

art of hybridizing and testing makes or breaks the results


a good tip is to buy the clone only if u can or grow same male and diff females of the project. this will make u as a grower know if u can get info on parents what is Dominate. after growing many of same male or even females crossed. I can def spot the structure or similarity to them once ran and tested a few times.
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
Thank you! Currently at the chiropractor right now and I'm gonna read through that again because I'm getting close to wanting to run a single tent to breed.

The seeds I'm working with are generally what comes from my plants that mainly were clones until this passed season when I used actual seedlings, talked to you guys, and learned about the phenotype stuff which helped me understand what I saw this year in my garden.

Seeds from the same clones last year ended with two VERY distinct Blue Cheese plants this year, and last year's Skywalker which was earthy, and with seeds this year that gave me a Skywalker plant that literally smells like Blueberry jam.... blew my mind lol!
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
So with stabilizing how's that work out? I think I read something about people using a strain to stabilize genetics but I could be mistaken too.... I know I'd like to eventually do a cross of Blue Cheese with a few other strains (GMO, Chem D, Skywalker, Motor Breath, others) but I'm still learning, and this season was my third one growing my own plants, Amy's ice experimented with grow techniques a little and gotten great results thus far.
 

Hawkman

High as a Hawk
Have never grower "cheese" I'm ashamed to say that, been want to -- have a strain by "TrumpSeed .com"sub-post to be the orginal cheese ? (didn't it orginate in the UK ? that's were he is at-- NOW to find the best CHEESE any suggestions ?
 

Psychobilly

🧀Muenster
Have never grower "cheese" I'm ashamed to say that, been want to -- have a strain by "TrumpSeed .com"sub-post to be the orginal cheese ? (didn't it orginate in the UK ? that's were he is at-- NOW to find the best CHEESE any suggestions ?
Personally if you've never tried to grow any of the Cheese strains, I'd recommend Blue Cheese as the first one; it's easy to grow, it's hardy, it's naturally mold and pest resistant, and if it gets cold in your area, Blue Cheese doesn't care and even thrives at cooler temperatures.

I can't recommend Blue Cheese enough.... it's my ALL TIME favorite strain ever, and it's also one of the reasons I no longer have to go to a Doctor for painkillers all the time.

UK Cheese is one I'd like to grow some day but as of yet I haven't had a chance. I've smoked it and love it, but haven't grown it.

Purple Cheese is another strain that I've heard of but never had a chance to grow or even try for that matter; I've literally never seen it available but I'd like to try.
 

MtRainDog

In Bloom
Have never grower "cheese" I'm ashamed to say that, been want to -- have a strain by "TrumpSeed .com"sub-post to be the orginal cheese ? (didn't it orginate in the UK ? that's were he is at-- NOW to find the best CHEESE any suggestions ?

I'd give CSI: Humboldt's UK Cheese S1 a try...

 
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