Chief’s Den

[Jewels]

Remember Chief. Your original idea could be correct.
Facts, measurements, observations.
The most common airborne fungal spore found at outdoor ops is Botrytis. We are familiar with bud rot, as such, but remember Botry. can live on a grape skin, certainly it can abide a leaf.
Where can you find it ?
On one plant ?
Scope the neighbours?
You could culture it . See what pans out.
Capt is wise with the scoping, some stuff gets pretty obvious at 100x. Anything you find at that magnification; you can assume it is to be found everywhere.
You can’t fart, just in the backseat.

I think it is pretty awesome that you are tuned into your garden well enough to recognize the needs of your plants. That alone brings success. Recognizing an emergency and calling for help is about the best thing a guy can do.
Keep sticking to the middle of the road. Even in the absence of definitive answer, knowing an ideal environment begets healthy plants, you are on the right track.
Sounds like you are fighting uphill all year long.

 

[macsnax]

Humidity has been a challenge in my spot this time of year. In winter, spring, and fall I wrestle with temperatures, in summer it’s humidity. I have been trying to make simple changes to gain more consistency and control including a dehumidifier that vents into my tent’s air intake. I think my challenge this run is that I ended up with 5 ladies where I should ideally cap out at 4 and I vegged longer than I wanted trying to get the plants happy prior to flipping, so I have more root mass and more plant mass than my setup is prepared to manage. @macsnax warned me of this but I failed to follow on this. As a newb I struggled with the idea of culling an otherwise healthy plant to leave more room for the others.

You don't have to necessarily cull them either. I ran a 2x2 tent for a long time just for extras and reveg cuts. You can fit a surprising amount of cutting size plants in one of those. Just take a cutting and let it grow in a small space. If it starts getting too big and you're not ready for it, clone it again and get rid of the big plant. You can get away with that a lot more than people give it credit. I think it would take years before you started losing vigor on a seed plant if they're kept happy.

 

[macsnax]

Perhaps I am a simpleton I call it bud rot.
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NVM I know I'm a simpleton.

And yeah, I need to complie the info he's posted.

There's nothing wrong with keeping things simple, you never end up over your head lol. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast

 

[chiefer888]

You don't have to necessarily cull them either. I ran a 2x2 tent for a long time just for extras and reveg cuts. You can fit a surprising amount of cutting size plants in one of those. Just take a cutting and let it grow in a small space. If it starts getting too big and you're not ready for it, clone it again and get rid of the big plant. You can get away with that a lot more than people give it credit. I think it would take years before you started losing vigor on a seed plant if they're kept happy.

That is the direction I am headed in. I am planning on building a small box for starts, cuttings, with just enough space to keep a couple of my favorite phenos and space to veg 3-4 plants to around 10” size. Right now I just have one spot. I had a space bucket but didn’t have ventilation set up and so I decided to move a different direction and build a box thinking of doing a 28”x14”x21 box I am thinking of either bridgelux strips or screw in led bulbs for lights.

 

[macsnax]

That is the direction I am headed in. I am planning on building a small box for starts, cuttings, with just enough space to keep a couple of my favorite phenos and space to veg 3-4 plants to around 10” size. Right now I just have one spot. I had a space bucket but didn’t have ventilation set up and so I decided to move a different direction and build a box thinking of doing a 28”x14”x21 box I am thinking of either bridgelux strips or screw in led bulbs for lights.

It's also not necessary to have a powerful light doing that. You're plants will likely grow faster than you like, I just had a cheap blurple in mine and it seemed to work pretty good for what I was doing. And if you're planning on using it to reveg the powerful light isn't good for that either. You're on the right track, it will probably take a lil experimenting to find what works for your situation but I'm sure you'll get it buddy.

 

[chiefer888]

It's also not necessary to have a powerful light doing that. You're plants will likely grow faster than you like, I just had a cheap blurple in mine and it seemed to work pretty good for what I was doing. And if you're planning on using it to reveg the powerful light isn't good for that either. You're on the right track, it will probably take a lil experimenting to find what works for your situation but I'm sure you'll get it buddy.

I have a 105 watt Vipar burple sitting around, but I think that is maybe a little bit overkill with my low headroom I was shooting for 50ish watts.

 

[macsnax]

I have a 105 watt Vipar burple sitting around, but I think that is maybe a little bit overkill with my low headroom I was shooting for 50ish watts.

There you go, maybe those bulbs you mentioned are a good fit

 

[chiefer888]

Glamour Shots:

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[JL2G]

@chiefer888 imho I'd agree with all of the above statements.
Scope those leaves out to verify what and or if there's any fungal or pest signs.
Anytime I see something funky I go for the magnifier, and or 60x/100x scope to get a better look.
On the RH note. Imho high RH is manageable if the temps are high enough to keep it in balance.
The two work hand in hand.
Higher temps will reduce the RH of the air, and cooler temps will increase it. Hence having the dark cycle RH spike.
What do your dark time temps go down to? I think you'd said, but I don't remember. Lol

 

[chiefer888]

@chiefer888 imho I'd agree with all of the above statements.
Scope those leaves out to verify what and or if there's any fungal or pest signs.
Anytime I see something funky I go for the magnifier, and or 60x/100x scope to get a better look.
On the RH note. Imho high RH is manageable if the temps are high enough to keep it in balance.
The two work hand in hand.
Higher temps will reduce the RH of the air, and cooler temps will increase it. Hence having the dark cycle RH spike.
What do your dark time temps go down to? I think you'd said, but I don't remember. Lol

I have some variables that influence my lights out temp., like are we running our air, but they’ve been staying mostly around 71-73F.

 

[JL2G]

I have some variables that influence my lights out temp., like are we running our air, but they’ve been staying mostly around 71-73F.

If airflow is not doing a good enough job to keep RH in check, you could try adding a bit of heat during lights out to bump it up 5 degrees or so.
It will drop the RH quite a bit in my experience.

 

[chiefer888]

I opened the tent for the nightly check, and this pretty much jumps right out at me.
This is the top bud from my Endor Score. It has been removed and disposed of. I’m at eight weeks and figure I will start harvesting the plants that look the most ready in the next couple of days.

 

[jpcyan2]

Damn.. that sucks bro. No doubt now what that is. She was frosty as f too.. Good you caught it, and removed.
Keep a close eye on the rest , that sh*t gets rampant. F a s t
Its good that you are close to harvest at least. Best wishes for a healthy harvest.

 

[Capt. C]

I opened the tent for the nightly check, and this pretty much jumps right out at me. View attachment 18125 View attachment 18126
This is the top bud from my Endor Score. It has been removed and disposed of. I’m at eight weeks and figure I will start harvesting the plants that look the most ready in the next couple of days.

This is kinda what i was fearing. After this round you will need a STRONG grow area cleaning and a good IMP in place for the next round. I personally alternate Nuke-um and azamax on my IMP. I have yet to battle them myself but i am prepared just in case.

 

[macsnax]

I opened the tent for the nightly check, and this pretty much jumps right out at me. View attachment 18125 View attachment 18126
This is the top bud from my Endor Score. It has been removed and disposed of. I’m at eight weeks and figure I will start harvesting the plants that look the most ready in the next couple of days.

Yikes bud, I hope you don't lose too much. Keep an eye on everything.

 

[chiefer888]

This is kinda what i was fearing. After this round you will need a STRONG grow area cleaning and a good IMP in place for the next round. I personally alternate Nuke-um and azamax on my IMP. I have yet to battle them myself but i am prepared just in case.

You think it’s spider mites? I was pretty sure it was mold. If you look at the bud shot you might be able to see that it appeared to be more fuzzy than webbed. The pics through the loupe show a sort of webbed look, but that is at 30x.

 

[Capt. C]

You think it’s spider mites? I was pretty sure it was mold. If you look at the bud shot you might be able to see that it appeared to be more fuzzy than webbed. The pics through the loupe show a sort of webbed look, but that is at 30x.

Yes that is what i was thinking from the second picture. But not positive of that at all. Can you get some more pictures. Someone on here will be able to make a positive ID. Mold would make more sense given the environment conditions being on the high humid side.

 

[Capt. C]

You think it’s spider mites? I was pretty sure it was mold. If you look at the bud shot you might be able to see that it appeared to be more fuzzy than webbed. The pics through the loupe show a sort of webbed look, but that is at 30x.

Of course not sure what this is yet but if you are planing on trying to salvage some for consumption maybe start thinking about a plan to do a bud wash right after harvest. Not hard at all will just take some fore thought and planning.

 

[macsnax]

I'm pretty sure that's mold. It has a name that's slipping my mind too lol. Def bud wash if you plan to try to salvage. I've been using this tech for years if mold issues pop up, minus the lemon juice stuff. Never needed it imo.

 

[GthaEnigma]

Fungal hyphae can often look webbed when established.