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So a couple things I want to point out about this. Dan Chi Sau is like chess to us. Here they’re doing sensitivity training. You can tell the practitioners that are instructors or higher in their forms (Belts are for holding up pants) by who watches her hands. The one guy that actually grabs her neck is mostly watching her heads/shoulders and at times isn’t even looking directly at her. The guys that watch her hands don’t last long. The trick is to always have contact and here they’re doing takedowns. In reality when we do dan chi sau we’re trying to hit each other. The motivation to learn is to not get hit. I’d leave class daily with fist sized bruises all over me. Also understand what you’re seeing are 2 practitioners of the art going at it. Imagine if one of these people was not trained. How quickly do you think this would be over??? It’s served me well in life in many aspects. Being a pacifist at heart, I’ve trained so I don’t have to fight and I joke with my wife now I’m 50 and falling apart..... “I can be deadly for 10-20 seconds of if I had too”
I can still hear her cackling laughter about that comment to this day.....lol
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Since I’ve been talking about my life’s pursuit of a martial art. I thought I’d share something kinda cool (or stupid depending on your point of view). The art I studied was actually created by a Buddhist Nun Ving Tsun. The legend is there was a lady who did not want to marry a warlord. The emperor ordered that if she wanted to be truly free she would have to fight the warlord hand to hand (this is China folks) and if she won she would not have to marry him. He gave her 30 days to prepare and sequester herself with the Nuns during this time. Ving Tsun developed this art which is based on form not strength and taught it to the Lady in 30 days. The Lady won.... so goes the legend. The last acknowledged Grand Master of Ving Tsun kung Fi was Ip Man. They’ve actually made a few movies about his life. The first one is worth watching. The following sequels are about his life but they’re more “Hollywoodish” type thing. ANYWAY.....
Here’s a scene from Ip Man 3. Donnie Yen (Into the Badlands) is a serious practitioner of Ving Tsun (Wing Chun) and plays Ip Man and here he faces off against Mike Tyson.... As I said Cool or Stupid depending on your perspective.
OHHHH... Why no grow content??? Well I’m on day 3 of Flower, my kiddies look just like they did 2 days ago. I watered today (they’ve increased water intake by 50%. They were “asking” for a gallon every 4 days. Now it’s every 2) and gave them a preemptive Cal/Mag feeding at 6.6-6.7... now the video.....
Here’s a scene from Ip Man 3. Donnie Yen (Into the Badlands) is a serious practitioner of Ving Tsun (Wing Chun) and plays Ip Man and here he faces off against Mike Tyson.... As I said Cool or Stupid depending on your perspective.
OHHHH... Why no grow content??? Well I’m on day 3 of Flower, my kiddies look just like they did 2 days ago. I watered today (they’ve increased water intake by 50%. They were “asking” for a gallon every 4 days. Now it’s every 2) and gave them a preemptive Cal/Mag feeding at 6.6-6.7... now the video.....
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Now I’ve shown you the Hollywood version where a punch that can break CINDER BLOCK (or 10) is shaken off like nothing. This is a scene from the first movie (which was Chinese made) were they show REALISTICALLY what these kind of punches will do. Ving Tsun is NOT a self defense art, It’s a combat form. It’s one of the few arts that teach hit FIRST. The main philosophy in the art is not “I will defend myself from you” it’s “I’m going to destroy you before you can hurt me.” It’s why all my children have black belts in Tae Kwon Do but I NEVER taught them this. There’s a reason as you’ll see.....
Oh FYI, just like Krav Maga one of the MAIN things you learn is how to fight MULTIPLE targets at once.
Oh FYI, just like Krav Maga one of the MAIN things you learn is how to fight MULTIPLE targets at once.
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So, grow update:
Everything’s looking healthy on day 5 of flower.
Cheese Bread: Male!!!!
Lemon Pie: Male
KisMet (Kishmish x KourMet): looking male but I’ve made the same call in the past this early and been wrong. I’ll know tomorrow or next day for sure.
Gorilla Glue #4: FEMALE!!!!
So, now it’s a matter of deciding to keep growing Cheese Bread and Lemon Pie to harvest pollen or wait? If I wait and play “Taps” for the boys, I will be losing Lemon Pie genetics and I need to collect pollen at some point to preserve Cheese Bread. But this is a F4 and I wanted to do that with what little F2’s I have left. The other option is to do like I did at our old house and convert our unused basement shower into a male (or for open pollination) area.
I’d hang the Mars hydro 150 watt (actual) LED and finish them in here. After I’m done remove everything and turn on the shower. Running the overhead fan stops the stray pollen from getting out.
Well, decisions, decisions....
Everything’s looking healthy on day 5 of flower.
Cheese Bread: Male!!!!
Lemon Pie: Male
KisMet (Kishmish x KourMet): looking male but I’ve made the same call in the past this early and been wrong. I’ll know tomorrow or next day for sure.
Gorilla Glue #4: FEMALE!!!!
So, now it’s a matter of deciding to keep growing Cheese Bread and Lemon Pie to harvest pollen or wait? If I wait and play “Taps” for the boys, I will be losing Lemon Pie genetics and I need to collect pollen at some point to preserve Cheese Bread. But this is a F4 and I wanted to do that with what little F2’s I have left. The other option is to do like I did at our old house and convert our unused basement shower into a male (or for open pollination) area.
I’d hang the Mars hydro 150 watt (actual) LED and finish them in here. After I’m done remove everything and turn on the shower. Running the overhead fan stops the stray pollen from getting out.
Well, decisions, decisions....
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So I know some people are like you promised us awesome pics etc. The problem??? I’m a mess. I need to convert a open air basement into a office area, grow area, and wood shop. I’ve put up plastic but need to attach them to the floor. I have all the equipment for EVERYTHING but I get overwhelmed and stop. Now the camera. Using my camera involves uploading to a computer which I have but it’s in a spot that I can’t sit at it which also means I don’t get to play with my 3D printer. When my wife gets her bonus we’ve talked about paying a contractor friend of mine to finish it. Right now my camera equip is lounging on a chair (as my wife keeps reminding me) and I’ll finish at least the grow areas and my office area next week.
Much to my wife’s chagrin half my stuff is in the theatre/work out area of our basement.
Dust collection, table saw, band saw, drill press, several belt sanders, and 2 lathes to either be set up or put together.
who knew a lathe could act as ventilation hosing holder???
the flowering tent area
Plastic plastic everywhere...
Going into my office area and the 3x3 (2.7x2.7 actually). I have a 4x4 planned for this room as well with the 3x3 moving to where the chair is. This will give me three growing areas.
More if my stuff I should be using....
I’ll get it done and get moving. Getting motivated to grow isn’t the problem. It’s all the OTHER shit I have to do.
Much to my wife’s chagrin half my stuff is in the theatre/work out area of our basement.
Dust collection, table saw, band saw, drill press, several belt sanders, and 2 lathes to either be set up or put together.
who knew a lathe could act as ventilation hosing holder???
the flowering tent area
Plastic plastic everywhere...
Going into my office area and the 3x3 (2.7x2.7 actually). I have a 4x4 planned for this room as well with the 3x3 moving to where the chair is. This will give me three growing areas.
More if my stuff I should be using....
I’ll get it done and get moving. Getting motivated to grow isn’t the problem. It’s all the OTHER shit I have to do.
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I ordered a 4” AC infinity fan back when I thought I’d be growing 2-3 plants (all female) a grow cycle just for my medical needs. Since my wife discovered DAFT (Dutch Friendship Friendship Agreement The Dutch American Friendship Treaty) and asked me to consider breeding and growing as a way to start a modest business and be able to move to the Netherlands. Which is a dream for both of us and I have this habit of making dreams either possible or true. But as always I digress.....
Now I’ve scaled up my plans I went ahead and ordered the 6” AC Inf. Fan and their filter. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE their tent, I mean 1” thick polls!!!!! I’ll let you know how the filter does....
ANYWAY more to come.....
thesunnyvalekid
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I have run the Notorious it’s a lovely cultivar love to see that cross with Copa, please keep me updated.
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I will, I’m popping a Notorious in my next grow series but I’ve changed what I’m crossing next. I still have those plans for ban ham and Not. But a fellow board members strain will cross PERFECTLY with one of my stains. Freak Genetics (@Frimpong) Blackberry Bread (Blackberry Hammer x Sweet Bread) and my Kishmish (Afghani #1 x Exodus Cheese). All parental strains have STRONG Afghani #1 roots so the cross should be VERY interesting.
thesunnyvalekid
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Highly agree, still keep me updated very curious, Thanks Prima
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I need to correct myself here...
Kishmish is actually Exodus Cheese x GDP x Afghani #1.
I’m obsessive to the point I read and reread my posts and I kept readings this post and couldn’t figure out what was wrong.
Just so you understand I have a form of social disorder called in some circles “exceptionality”. It basically means I am so “smart” (not the right term though) that it’s a disability. My IQ truly is 160, the same as Einstein (wanna bet how many times I was told this in the “You’re so smart” speech. Even though I was put in LD/ED classes with the other “problem” children.). Saying you have a high numbered IQ really isn’t saying how smart you are. I’ve met MANY people in my life who taught me a multitude of things who's IQ was not even close to mine. But they sure as hell were smarter than I. All a high IQ means is your CAPACITY to learn. So until I was in my middle 20’s I was the smartest STUPID person you ever met. Two failed marriages to CRAZY (certified by the courts actually) ex-wives, 4 children, and a roller coaster life that’s almost unbelievable later.... One day I’ll go into those things, as you get to know me. But though I look like I’m well off by some of the places I travel and the things I buy and use. Just know that I saw a shrink every week from ages 5-15 years old, was locked up in psychiatric hospitals/group homes with juvenile rapists, child molesters, killers, and pretty mentally F’d up people. I’ve also had to dumpster dive to eat/survive (pizza places are actually the best as they box the food before they throw it away.) and was homeless from 16-18. I make no apologies for the life I have now and I worked Damn hard for it. Here’s the kicker.... that whole shitty life I’ve presented.... I was the architect of it all and EVERY STUPID decision I made (because of my talents/curse) I can tell you EXACTLY what I was thinking then to this day. Basically all because I was so “smart”. I guess what I’m trying to say is when I come across as bragging, better than though, or a know it all. I’m really not trying to do that. I have this want to help and please so I see it as trying to entertain, inform, and help the person/s I’m talking to. So when I tell you I’m like Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang theory, I’m not talking about brilliance, or being THAT smart (physisist). I’m talking about I have the same Social Disorders because of my curse/talents. I’m an honorable person that just wants to fit in but can’t.
FYI, I’ll post this and spend the next 20 minutes reading it and rereading it looking for places to edit or mistakes. If I fight it, it will drive me nuts until I do.
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How do you decide WHICH strains to cross???
Isn’t THAT the question??? Well, everyone has their theories or ways about it. From “WTF, let’s see what happens?” to just wanting to combine good growing traits (resistances, etc.). I was actually taught to consider genetic acceptance OR parental lineage. Look for commonalities and compatibilities and go from there.
Earlier I said I wanted to cross @Frimpong ‘s Blackberry Bread with my Kishmish. I didn’t just say:
“Well we’ll take my strain that has Cheese in it’s Creation and add it to Blackberry Bread and we’ll call it Blackberry Grilled Cheese.”
I actually researched each parental lineage and found the following:
Blackberry Bread = Blackberry Hammer x Sweet Bread
{Blackberry Hammer = Blackberry Kush x 9 Pound Hammer
Blackberry Kush = Blackberry x Afghani #1
Blackberry = Black Domina x Raspberry Cough
Black Domina = Northern Lights x Afghani #1
Raspberry Cough = Cambodian LR x Ice
Ice = Northern lights x Skunk #1 phenotype
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
9 Pound Hammer = Jack the Ripper x Hells OG
Jack the Ripper = Space Queen x Jack’s Cleaner
Space Queen = Cinderella 99 x Romulan
Cinderella 99 = Jack Herer x Shiva Skunk
Jack Harer = Northern lights x Haze
Shiva Skunk = Skunk #1 x Northern Lights
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Jacks Cleaner = Phenotype of Jack Herer
Hells OG = Blackberry Kush x OG Kush
Blackberry Kush = Blackberry x Afghani #1
Blackberry = Black Domina x Raspberry Cough
Black Domina = Northern Lights x Afghani #1
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
Raspberry Cough = Cambodian LR x Ice
Ice = Northern lights x Skunk #1 phenotype
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1}
Sweet Bread = Birthday Cake x Sundae Driver
{Birthday Cake = Girl Scout Cookies x Cherry Pie
Cherry Pie = Grand Daddy Purple x Durban Poison
Grand Daddy Purple = Purple Urkle x Big Bud
Big Bud = Northern Lights x Skunk #1 phenotype
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Sundae Driver = Phenotype of Fruity Peebles OG
Fruity Peebles OG = Grand Daddy Purple x Tahoe Alien
Grand Daddy Purple = Purple Urkle x Big Bud
Big Bud = Northern Lights x Skunk #1 phenotype
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Tahoe Alien = Tahoe OG x Alien Kush
Tahoe OG = OG Kush x SFV OG Kush
SFV OG Kush = SFV OG x Afghani #1
Alien Kush = Alien Dawg x Las Vegas Purple Kush
Alien Dawg = Chemdawg x Alien Technology
Alien Technology = Afghani #1 phenotype
Las Vegas Purple Kush = Hindu Kush x Purple Afghani
Purple Afghani = Purple Kush x Afghani #1}
Kishmish = Exodus Cheese x Grand Daddy Purple x Afghani #1
{Exodus Cheese = Phenotype of Skunk #1
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Grand Daddy Purple = Purple Urkle x Big Bud
Big Bud = Northern Lights x Skunk #1 phenotype
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Afghani #1 = Afghani #1 ?}
Afghani #1 is the binding genetics in almost every parental lineage and from the way I was taught to try to figure out genetic compatibility these strains should just MELD perfectly!!!!
Isn’t THAT the question??? Well, everyone has their theories or ways about it. From “WTF, let’s see what happens?” to just wanting to combine good growing traits (resistances, etc.). I was actually taught to consider genetic acceptance OR parental lineage. Look for commonalities and compatibilities and go from there.
Earlier I said I wanted to cross @Frimpong ‘s Blackberry Bread with my Kishmish. I didn’t just say:
“Well we’ll take my strain that has Cheese in it’s Creation and add it to Blackberry Bread and we’ll call it Blackberry Grilled Cheese.”
I actually researched each parental lineage and found the following:
Blackberry Bread = Blackberry Hammer x Sweet Bread
{Blackberry Hammer = Blackberry Kush x 9 Pound Hammer
Blackberry Kush = Blackberry x Afghani #1
Blackberry = Black Domina x Raspberry Cough
Black Domina = Northern Lights x Afghani #1
Raspberry Cough = Cambodian LR x Ice
Ice = Northern lights x Skunk #1 phenotype
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
9 Pound Hammer = Jack the Ripper x Hells OG
Jack the Ripper = Space Queen x Jack’s Cleaner
Space Queen = Cinderella 99 x Romulan
Cinderella 99 = Jack Herer x Shiva Skunk
Jack Harer = Northern lights x Haze
Shiva Skunk = Skunk #1 x Northern Lights
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Jacks Cleaner = Phenotype of Jack Herer
Hells OG = Blackberry Kush x OG Kush
Blackberry Kush = Blackberry x Afghani #1
Blackberry = Black Domina x Raspberry Cough
Black Domina = Northern Lights x Afghani #1
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
Raspberry Cough = Cambodian LR x Ice
Ice = Northern lights x Skunk #1 phenotype
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1}
Sweet Bread = Birthday Cake x Sundae Driver
{Birthday Cake = Girl Scout Cookies x Cherry Pie
Cherry Pie = Grand Daddy Purple x Durban Poison
Grand Daddy Purple = Purple Urkle x Big Bud
Big Bud = Northern Lights x Skunk #1 phenotype
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Sundae Driver = Phenotype of Fruity Peebles OG
Fruity Peebles OG = Grand Daddy Purple x Tahoe Alien
Grand Daddy Purple = Purple Urkle x Big Bud
Big Bud = Northern Lights x Skunk #1 phenotype
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Tahoe Alien = Tahoe OG x Alien Kush
Tahoe OG = OG Kush x SFV OG Kush
SFV OG Kush = SFV OG x Afghani #1
Alien Kush = Alien Dawg x Las Vegas Purple Kush
Alien Dawg = Chemdawg x Alien Technology
Alien Technology = Afghani #1 phenotype
Las Vegas Purple Kush = Hindu Kush x Purple Afghani
Purple Afghani = Purple Kush x Afghani #1}
Kishmish = Exodus Cheese x Grand Daddy Purple x Afghani #1
{Exodus Cheese = Phenotype of Skunk #1
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Grand Daddy Purple = Purple Urkle x Big Bud
Big Bud = Northern Lights x Skunk #1 phenotype
Northern Lights = Thai x Afghani #1
Skunk #1 = Acapulco Gold x Afghani #1
Afghani #1 = Afghani #1 ?}
Afghani #1 is the binding genetics in almost every parental lineage and from the way I was taught to try to figure out genetic compatibility these strains should just MELD perfectly!!!!
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Dang , everyone looks awesome tho . Gotta say ?
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TY man, well it could have been worse. All of them could have been boys.
thesunnyvalekid
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Looking real nice, gonna fill the whole tent.
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Thanks, I’m hoping once I get her trellised out I she’ll perform. It’s from Dispensary bag seed so I’m not familiar with the genetics. It’s going to be interesting to see what she’ll do.
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Grow update:
Time for a compost feeding tea tomorrow and I like to let mine “brew” for 24 hours. Since I’m only watering one plants now my amounts change but not my ingredients:
1.5 Gallon Water
1 Tbsp seaweed extract
2 Tbsp Urb (URB Natural ™| Unrivaled Soil Microbes: Increase Yields, Reduce Inputs)
1 Tbsp Molasses
1/2 cup worm castings
1/2 cup organic biocompost (NO MANURE)
1/2 cup living soil
1/8 cup Dr. Earth’s Flower girl 3-9-4
Here’s another thing I do that you might do yourself or find useful. Instead of purchasing “tea” bags or socks I use....
Pantyhose... not original I know but I buy LARGE woman’s pantyhose. Two pair for 10 bucks. I pair can almost get me through an entire grow.
Mass amounts of material. I just. It a 8” section.
It it’s open on both ends I just tie a knot.
Cover and brew for 18-24 hours.
Time for a compost feeding tea tomorrow and I like to let mine “brew” for 24 hours. Since I’m only watering one plants now my amounts change but not my ingredients:
1.5 Gallon Water
1 Tbsp seaweed extract
2 Tbsp Urb (URB Natural ™| Unrivaled Soil Microbes: Increase Yields, Reduce Inputs)
1 Tbsp Molasses
1/2 cup worm castings
1/2 cup organic biocompost (NO MANURE)
1/2 cup living soil
1/8 cup Dr. Earth’s Flower girl 3-9-4
Here’s another thing I do that you might do yourself or find useful. Instead of purchasing “tea” bags or socks I use....
Pantyhose... not original I know but I buy LARGE woman’s pantyhose. Two pair for 10 bucks. I pair can almost get me through an entire grow.
Mass amounts of material. I just. It a 8” section.
It it’s open on both ends I just tie a knot.
Cover and brew for 18-24 hours.
