Jars vs Bags

[PlumberSoCal]

I’m sure reading a lot about them.
I loaded the cart one day, but crawfished.
Like everyone else, I’ve got a butt load of jars.
Self burping jars?

I know, I love my jars but $25 for 100 of these bags and I don't have to burp? I'm liking that idea and I can still put what I'm smoking in a jars. I'll continue to check 'em just for peace of mind but if they work as advertised then I'm gonna be happy.

 

[Caddis]

I know, I love my jars but $25 for 100 of these bags and I don't have to burp? I'm liking that idea and I can still put what I'm smoking in a jars. I'll continue to check 'em just for peace of mind but if they work as advertised then I'm gonna be happy.

I must have been looking at the wrong ones, that’s cheap enough. Definitely be watching how they do for you.

 

[manthatreeks]

I loaded the cart one day, but crawfished.

Same here. Where's the beef?

I cant get on board with paying $3, $4, $5 a bag for something that is missing the beef. These aren't much more than those paper-ish plastic style "beef jerky" bags WITHOUT the beef jerky, which gives me the distinct impression I'm getting jerked.

I watched a vid a while back, I believe it was an interview with the owner/"inventor" of grove bags. Said his family was in the "food packaging business", meaning they're already in the business of making re-sealable bags.

In other words, it seems to me they took a product which is generally a one time use, throw away bag and with a bunch of elaborate hype, marketed it to the MJ crowd. They say they're reusable but a seller says the manufacture also states it's not a best practice.

I dunno man, jars last for years and years and years and we've been using them to cure for just as long. They're durable, washable and infinitely reusable. Not to mention CHEAPER.

A feel like a masterful marketing ploy is at play here. Again, I go back to those beef jerky bags which I'm pretty sure regulate humidity, lock in freshness and are probably just as UV protective (as if that mattered) because who doesn't store in a cool, dark place?

Some guys love throwing money at new stuff, this is still America, buy what you like, I guess I'm more of a tried and true guy myself.

 

[Hawkman]

I’m sure reading a lot about them.
I loaded the cart one day, but crawfished.
Like everyone else, I’ve got a butt load of jars.
Self burping jars?

they do make self-burpping mason jar lids

 

[Hawkman]

Same here. Where's the beef?

I cant get on board with paying $3, $4, $5 a bag for something that is missing the beef. These aren't much more than those paper-ish plastic style "beef jerky" bags WITHOUT the beef jerky, which gives me the distinct impression I'm getting jerked.

I watched a vid a while back, I believe it was an interview with the owner/"inventor" of grove bags. Said his family was in the "food packaging business", meaning they're already in the business of making re-sealable bags.

In other words, it seems to me they took a product which is generally a one time use, throw away bag and with a bunch of elaborate hype, marketed it to the MJ crowd. They say they're reusable but a seller says the manufacture also states it's not a best practice.

I dunno man, jars last for years and years and years and we've been using them to cure for just as long. They're durable, washable and infinitely reusable. Not to mention CHEAPER.

A feel like a masterful marketing ploy is at play here. Again, I go back to those beef jerky bags which I'm pretty sure regulate humidity, lock in freshness and are probably just as UV protective (as if that mattered) because who doesn't store in a cool, dark place?

Some guys love throwing money at new stuff, this is still America, buy what you like, I guess I'm more of a tried and true guy myself.

great information !!!!! -going to stick with "amber" mason jars

 

[Caddis]

Same here. Where's the beef?

I cant get on board with paying $3, $4, $5 a bag for something that is missing the beef. These aren't much more than those paper-ish plastic style "beef jerky" bags WITHOUT the beef jerky, which gives me the distinct impression I'm getting jerked.

I watched a vid a while back, I believe it was an interview with the owner/"inventor" of grove bags. Said his family was in the "food packaging business", meaning they're already in the business of making re-sealable bags.

In other words, it seems to me they took a product which is generally a one time use, throw away bag and with a bunch of elaborate hype, marketed it to the MJ crowd. They say they're reusable but a seller says the manufacture also states it's not a best practice.

I dunno man, jars last for years and years and years and we've been using them to cure for just as long. They're durable, washable and infinitely reusable. Not to mention CHEAPER.

A feel like a masterful marketing ploy is at play here. Again, I go back to those beef jerky bags which I'm pretty sure regulate humidity, lock in freshness and are probably just as UV protective (as if that mattered) because who doesn't store in a cool, dark place?

Some guys love throwing money at new stuff, this is still America, buy what you like, I guess I'm more of a tried and true guy myself.

I’m going to see how they work, I do see an advantage for travel storage, if they are smellproof?
One day I may not want to crack a lid?

About all I know about beef jerky bags is there is some shitty tasting something in them.
Dog seemed to like them, but he likes cat shit….

 

[Psychobilly]

I roll my own Cigarettes and the bags tobacco comes in seem pretty similar to the bags, but I do have multiple strains in different bags and so far they're going good.

As for self burping jars, I don't have any of those, though I have "flipped the lid" on normal jars because last year I had too many jars to take care of at once, and it seemed to work ok.

I'm not so sure I'd leave an entire jar of fresh weed in a jar with the lid flipped but it seemed to do ok for the time I had it like that. The top cap of the jar that I use to write strain names on flipped and then the metal ring screwed back on is what I tried. Apparently it works by not actually sealing the contents inside, but again, I'm not sure I'd do that again.

 

[manthatreeks]

I’m going to see how they work, I do see an advantage for travel storage, if they are smellproof?
One day I may not want to crack a lid?

About all I know about beef jerky bags is there is some shitty tasting something in them.
Dog seemed to like them, but he likes cat shit….

Go for it! Let us know.

The biggest selling point/claim here is the self regulating cure. I get that. I have no doubt they do this better than a mylar bag or glass jar. My gripe is it that I don't think the material / "technology" is much different than the packaging/material used on a thousand other one use/throw way bags. I can see a use for deep pocket commercial guys, but for the most part I think it's marketing. Just my observation.

I left this out in my post above but I very much enjoy the process of cracking lids and burping jars. It allows me to inspect and smell the fruits of my labor. Nose then eyes, I use a small light that highlights the trichs and hues of the flower, it's a very relaxing and rewarding experience for me. Plus I like the simplicity of a screw on lid, no fumbling around trying to align those damn tracks of the zip feature.

As far as travel, I'd still trust a well prepped jar over a bag. My herb reeks, if I get pulled over the car is getting searched. Still though, with glass you can screw the lid, wipe down with alcohol and hope for the best. Plus I like the crush proof security of a jar. Sure, jars "could" break, but a bag lacks structure and will almost always squash and rattle your fine herbs.

Team Jar for life.

P.S Dude, what kind of guy doesn't like beef jerky?.. Staple of the American settler. I'm not sure I've heard a man utter such words. Blasphemy!

 

[Psychobilly]

Not just American; I think it was invented in Africa. You know they used to make stews with it? I imagine it'd be delicious. Either way, I'm ok so far having some in bags, and so far they're doing good, but I also like Jars, and curing my plants in them.

 

[Buckeyetoker]

Got my bags. Transferred from a bunch of jars…humidity is holding steady. UV is no longer an issue and Im done clanking around with jars. We’ll see how they do on a full cure in a month or so. I bought a wood moisture meter to check after drying and sweating the buds before I bag them. We shall see.

 

[Caddis]

Staple of the American settler.

So you are equating Jack Link jerky to the jerky the pioneers ate?
That sounds like “blasphemy”!

 

[Buckeyetoker]

And I wanna say something else....I will use a jar/jars for my daily. I see these bags as an innovation to save energy and space and also increasing the terps we love while being in short term or long term storage. I don't think I'd wanna crack a bag open every time I needed a bud to smoke or worry about crushing them going to a buddies house. Both will be in my arsenal.

 

[Frimpong]

And I wanna say something else....I will use a jar/jars for my daily. I see these bags as an innovation to save energy and space and also increasing the terps we love while being in short term or long term storage. I don't think I'd wanna crack a bag open every time I needed a bud to smoke or worry about crushing them going to a buddies house. Both will be in my arsenal.

Funny u said that , was exactly what has happened w me . Just from sheer convenience and the points u made .

 

[Buckeyetoker]

Funny u said that , was exactly what has happened w me . Just from sheer convenience and the points u made .

Great minds think alike! I just hate for some to think it's one or the other. They both have their place. Im pretty sure this thread was about curing specifically but we might as well cover the whole spectrum. Im big on science and tech.

 

[Buckeyetoker]

Anyone here use a wood moisture meter before putting in the bag? Im reading that you should stick the prongs through the densest bud and also through the stem at the same time to get the best reading. I got this one because it seemed simple for the single use Im gonna need it for and it only has 1% error. Amazon product

 

[manthatreeks]

I just hate for some to think it's one or the other. They both have their place.

You're absolutely right! Variety is the spice of life. I didn't mean to come off anti-bag but after re reading my post I was knocking them pretty hard... and I haven't even tried them! This thread is about curing and my cheap ass I took it off course over price for an empty bag. I apologize for that.

So you are equating Jack Link jerky to the jerky the pioneers ate?
That sounds like “blasphemy”!

No man, not at all! I was just comparing the bags they come in, or better yet, a jerky type of bag with that almost porous, paper-ish plastic feel to them.

 

[Psychobilly]

Personally I'm interested in those numbers you get with the meter and how it turns out. So far the 7 bags I'm using are holding up good, though I do open them up to see how it's going. Grove bags are what I've got.

 

[Buckeyetoker]

@manthatreeks you should listen to the Grove Bag owner and or spokesman. They actually do come from a food backed bag company out of Cleveland Ohio. What is so unique about them is that they completely reconstructed the bag to cannabis standards. Everything to how it breathes to optimize the "62%" humidity that we seek. The smell proof aspect and one thing the is cool is how they focussed on them being antistatic so that the material doesn't attract the trichomes and other plant matter to stick inside it or be sucked off the product. Not to mention the UV protection and oxygen exchange. Pretty cool technology.

 

[manthatreeks]

@manthatreeks you should listen to the Grove Bag owner and or spokesman. They actually do come from a food backed bag company out of Cleveland Ohio. What is so unique about them is that they completely reconstructed the bag to cannabis standards. Everything to how it breathes to optimize the "62%" humidity that we seek. The smell proof aspect and one thing the is cool is how they focussed on them being antistatic so that the material doesn't attract the trichomes and other plant matter to stick inside it or be sucked off the product. Not to mention the UV protection and oxygen exchange. Pretty cool technology.

Yeah I saw one of probably many interviews the owner has given. As long as it's technology and not BS. I'm probably more cynical than most as I've heard plenty of sales reps make claims about products that fell short of the hype. From root inoculants, to foliar sprays, to bulb spectrums, even back to the first ever SUPER SHITTY LED's grow lights. There's always a pitch.

Ultimately It will be testing that's done by the end user, like what @Buckeyetoker is doing with his new meter that will show if the claims made are legit.

For now I'll use what I have. Unfortunately I'm cheaper than they are! Still interested to see Buckeye do his tests, and from anyone else using them.

 

[OldG]

Same here. Where's the beef?

I cant get on board with paying $3, $4, $5 a bag for something that is missing the beef. These aren't much more than those paper-ish plastic style "beef jerky" bags WITHOUT the beef jerky, which gives me the distinct impression I'm getting jerked.

I watched a vid a while back, I believe it was an interview with the owner/"inventor" of grove bags. Said his family was in the "food packaging business", meaning they're already in the business of making re-sealable bags.

In other words, it seems to me they took a product which is generally a one time use, throw away bag and with a bunch of elaborate hype, marketed it to the MJ crowd. They say they're reusable but a seller says the manufacture also states it's not a best practice.

I dunno man, jars last for years and years and years and we've been using them to cure for just as long. They're durable, washable and infinitely reusable. Not to mention CHEAPER.

A feel like a masterful marketing ploy is at play here. Again, I go back to those beef jerky bags which I'm pretty sure regulate humidity, lock in freshness and are probably just as UV protective (as if that mattered) because who doesn't store in a cool, dark place?

Some guys love throwing money at new stuff, this is still America, buy what you like, I guess I'm more of a tried and true guy myself.

I guess the difference is i used the grove bags...And i have used smelly proof bags and up until the bags..mason jars for life.

It works better than zips or smelly proof. And you can put in damper buds in a grove..with no rotting ammonia problems.

So far i have broken 6 jars...i still find glass and the last one was 6 months ago...Grove for the WIN.

Mason jars are fine they just take up too much space in the 14 gallon tote...It holds more in the tote and everything.

LED was dumb for a long time too....HPS was king.