Chief’s Den

[DopeDaniel]

if hempy cups are on anyone’s mind.

Yes.

I'd pre wet the plugs and put em into a solo w an inch of perliite and dome ?that's my method . I use clear dunkin cups .

or this ^^^^

To follow my thoughts....

If your environment is good enough they will be able to strike roots right there in your veg area.

Get a rooting hormone powder or gel. RO water only 2-4 weeks.

A simple method without any pumps or unnecessary expense at this point cloners ar nice but you have 5-7 cuts available so a few will be bound to strike roots. Don't take just one or two cuts.

If you have perrilite or other inert media do @Buck5050 's solo hempy for a couple and a couple like frimp suggest and put them off to the side of the tent.

 

[DopeDaniel]

try to take cuts with 4-6 fan leaves and snip all but one or two fans in half too stop them from growing. You want to grow roots not leaves here.

this too^^^

but I vote for no dome or heat mat to test environment.

 

[chiefer888]

this too^^^

but I vote for no dome or heat mat to test environment.

I’m sure my environment is not ideal for rooting clones. 72F lights on 63F lights off.

 

[Skunky Dunk Farms]

Clones have always been a burr in my arse.
But a couple years ago i figured out what works for me.
Rockwool ph'd, clonex gel, clonex spray, 2 18" flouecsents over a dome .
Spray every 3 days when i decide to look at them and in 2 weeks i plant them.
Since i started not worrying about them so much they did better lol.

 

[Frimpong]

Clones have always been a burr in my arse.
But a couple years ago i figured out what works for me.
Rockwool ph'd, clonex gel, clonex spray, 2 18" flouecsents over a dome .
Spray every 3 days when i decide to look at them and in 2 weeks i plant them.
Since i started not worrying about them so much they did better lol.

Agreed

 

[DopeDaniel]

I’m sure my environment is not ideal for rooting clones. 72F lights on 63F lights off.

Which can also lead to things like water uptake issues in mature plants.

You ran through something similar with coco, then ajdusted you feed/water to better suit what was going on in your garden, shit got better.

You switched media, added a new light, what else....point is every piece makes the watch tick.

You have been using neem, I don't. Hate is strong word but in my garden horticultural oils are no go, Cal-Mg is in the same category of blasphemy. Though ther can be a place and a time for everything, advertising has made these producs overhyped and overused imo. Horti oils can clog stomata both on leaf and on root causing uptake issues. There is a reason many are used in products called dormancy oils.

Sorry for the rant but I think you see what I'm getting at.

 

[chiefer888]

Which can also lead to things like water uptake issues in mature plants.

You ran through something similar with coco, then ajdusted you feed/water to better suit what was going on in your garden, shit got better.

You switched media, added a new light, what else....point is every piece makes the watch tick.

You have been using neem, I don't. Hate is strong word but in my garden horticultural oils are no go, Cal-Mg is in the same category of blasphemy. Though ther can be a place and a time for everything, advertising has made these producs overhyped and overused imo. Horti oils can clog stomata both on leaf and on root causing uptake issues. There is a reason many are used in products called dormancy oils.

Sorry for the rant but I think you see what I'm getting at.

Thanks, I appreciate your perspective and your candor. I’m still finding lots of opportunities to cause trouble in my garden, so anything to narrow it down is a plus. I did use some neem (one root drench, one foliar spray during lights out). Since then I’ve done a bit of light misting with the H2O2 solution and a plain water irrigation. I haven’t been seeing much bug activity, but for me I’ve seen more leaf symptoms than actual bugs throughout this run. I tried to hack together a soil recipe and included bag soil that is probably lower quality than I should have.

 

[DopeDaniel]

I tried to hack together a soil recipe and included bag soil that is probably lower quality than I should have.

Failure is necessary. Insanity is repeating failure.
Success is good. Sucess can be lucky. Repeated sucess takes failure.

 

[chiefer888]

Took some cuttings two nights back (three from each plant) and stuck them in peat plugs and then in 9oz cups with a bit of perlite in the bottom, I might take another cut from each to try in these tiny root pouches I have and put in soil. Should I cut my soil with coco and or perlite, or go straight dirt? I’ve got a bag of roots organic original mix to work with.

 

[Frimpong]

Took some cuttings two nights back (three from each plant) and stuck them in peat plugs and then in 9oz cups with a bit of perlite in the bottom, I might take another cut from each to try in these tiny root pouches I have and put in soil. Should I cut my soil with coco and or perlite, or go straight dirt? I’ve got a bag of roots organic original mix to work with.

I'd cut it but that's just me . Clones love perlite and coco

 

[chiefer888]

I just checked my tent during lights out and the temp of my cuts on the heat mat is 66.5F, I’m only getting up to 71 during lights on.

 

[DopeDaniel]

Burrrrrrrrrr......

Careful though.
I like to prep an empty container for the temperature probe for the thermostat that is on the heat mat.

IMO This tells me what I am suspecting is a distict possibility. You are warm enough to grow weed, cool enough to have difficulty optimizing.

 

[chiefer888]

Burrrrrrrrrr......

Careful though.
I like to prep an empty container for the temperature probe for the thermostat that is on the heat mat.

IMO This tells me what I am suspecting is a distict possibility. You are warm enough to grow weed, cool enough to have difficulty optimizing.

This is something I have been facing throughout my grows. A significant consideration is that “management” responds to any request to adjust my setup with “sounds like a fire hazard”. This makes adding heat a significant barrier.

 

[chiefer888]

This probably lines up pretty well with the observation that I tend to struggle more in veg than flower.

 

[Skunky Dunk Farms]

I dont know what size area your working in. Could ya add a couple incandescent bulbs for heat?

 

[BH]

A good propane co2 burner would make the room warm in “on cycle “ and wild produce ya the co2 for cheap. As long as ur not in a air sealed room propane co2 burners would solve that issue . If in house for growing , have ur propane tank outdoors so if you ever have a fire , no propane bomb .

Propane in USA is cheap and it would give u a cheaper than electric heat

 

[chiefer888]

A good propane co2 burner would make the room warm in “on cycle “ and wild produce ya the co2 for cheap. As long as ur not in a air sealed room propane co2 burners would solve that issue . If in house for growing , have ur propane tank outdoors so if you ever have a fire , no propane bomb .

Propane in USA is cheap and it would give u a cheaper than electric heat

Thanks for the suggestion, I’m indoors and no way could I ever get approval from my wife to run that in my space.

 

[DopeDaniel]

This is something I have been facing throughout my grows. A significant consideration is that “management” responds to any request to adjust my setup with “sounds like a fire hazard”. This makes adding heat a significant barrier.

I have an older version of this.

Amazon product

Put it in the tent if having the room warmer is not an option.

GFCI, thermostat, very safe.

 

[HydroRed]

X2 on the radiator/oil heater. No open flames and no glowing red coils etc. Absolute safest heat you can possibly get, theyre just cumbersome.

 

[chiefer888]

Perception and baseline apprehension are factors that rival space and actual safety concerns in my scenario.