Reversing AlienOG

MO_Grow

Underground Chucker
Do you feel that once evidence of sacs appears, that reversal has occurred and will continue in the male path w/o further sprays? Probably more of a question for those that use CS.
Yes, I do feel that. At least that's the feeling I got from my first reversal. I think I only sprayed like a few more times, tops, after the change but felt the extra sprays were unnecessary. I don't think it really matters much, whether STS or CS, as they both accomplish the same goal, the blocking of female hormones. That's my rudimentary take on it anyway?
 

MO_Grow

Underground Chucker
I’m curious about that as well. It looks like a sac has formed on the apex node on my reversal attempt and she’s due for her fourth spray today
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Ya it does look like she's changing. I noticed pretty much the same thing in the center of the top node on mine and it looks like a sac is forming... definitely not a lady part!

I'll be the guinea pig here since I'm the one making the claims. I'll discontinue any further sprays on this plant and we'll all see for ourselves whether it continues it's boyish ways or tries to revert back to female?
 

MO_Grow

Underground Chucker
I've got a bottle of 30% cs and 8 LA Women that should start showing sex any day now. I'm going to give it a go soon.

This thread has been most helpful! Thank You for posting this Mo?
Thanks brotha, you're most welcome. And this is what I'd like to call a win-win situation! If we can all learn something from this experience... it's a win.

With my discontinuation of applications on the plant, it's gonna go down one of two ways. It's either gonna continue throwing sacs for the duration of flower and I'll collect a bunch of pollen. Or, it'll try to revert back to female midway or so and I'll end up with a seeded S1 plant and buds. Either way, mission accomplished! ?
 

MO_Grow

Underground Chucker
The small tent got cleared out so I can bring the copies in.
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Mostly green and all sitting in 1gal/#1 nursery pots...aside from the new targeted plant in the solo.

Honestly, I don't know how some people can get through flower in solos, as mine usually get pissy just trying to veg them for anymore than a few weeks it feels, but Im gonna try to keep her in there as long as I can.

Gonna do some topping to try to get some lateral growth going. Might hack that big, already lanky, b'ish in the back in half. Aside from the main target lady, I have 8 copies, with a couple more that are rooted and need to get solo'd up for backups of the backups:blitzaliensmile:OG:dancingsmiley"
 

MO_Grow

Underground Chucker
I agree with you on the solo cups.
Anymore than a month and a half and they hate me forever. I'm nursing some back now as they show sex and I get the room to up-pot.
Right!?! I can get away with it, to pretty near death, not much unlike the cuttings I started this thread with. But I just can't keep them happy in solos for long at all. I have a bunch of plants in veg right now that are pissed at me, I'm trying to do better to give them what the need, but it's their fault for taking so damn long to sex too?
 

Idlewilder

Underground Chucker
The small tent got cleared out so I can bring the copies in.
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Mostly green and all sitting in 1gal/#1 nursery pots...aside from the new targeted plant in the solo.

Honestly, I don't know how some people can get through flower in solos, as mine usually get pissy just trying to veg them for anymore than a few weeks it feels, but Im gonna try to keep her in there as long as I can.

Gonna do some topping to try to get some lateral growth going. Might hack that big, already lanky, b'ish in the back in half. Aside from the main target lady, I have 8 copies, with a couple more that are rooted and need to get solo'd up for backups of the backups:blitzaliensmile:OG:dancingsmiley"
Try super-cropping instead of topping the big girl, pinch the stem and bend the branch over.
Most growers flowering in solos are in coco or a soilless medium it seems. I somehow managed to flower a clone of Fumè in a solo but she was pissed. I think trying to take a seed plant to harvest in a solo is damn near impossible if using soil, whereas from clone is a more manageable if you keep it small
 

Chip Green

In Bloom
I've done a handful of successful reversals now. I've only used Silver Thiosulfate. The best success came from the kit usage. I do have the stock chemicals, but the ratios in the kits have proven superior.
I highly recommend the HydroRed kits.

Two things I will add. Might be a good idea, to only mix a half batch from the stock bottles into the sprayer. Unless you plan on reversing a massive plant. The full sprayer will go a loooooong way, and once it's mixed it has a much shorter shelf life. My most recent usage only took 3 applications for a complete reversal, and I collected, vials upon vials, in less than 6 weeks.

Also, the plant will look like it's going to die.
It won't. Well, at least I haven't actually murdered one yet. They looked hideous.
Accept the ugliness.
 

MO_Grow

Underground Chucker
Try super-cropping instead of topping the big girl, pinch the stem and bend the branch over.
Most growers flowering in solos are in coco or a soilless medium it seems. I somehow managed to flower a clone of Fumè in a solo but she was pissed. I think trying to take a seed plant to harvest in a solo is damn near impossible if using soil, whereas from clone is a more manageable if you keep it small
Maybe I'll do the bending instead?
I've done a handful of successful reversals now. I've only used Silver Thiosulfate. The best success came from the kit usage. I do have the stock chemicals, but the ratios in the kits have proven superior.
I highly recommend the HydroRed kits.

Two things I will add. Might be a good idea, to only mix a half batch from the stock bottles into the sprayer. Unless you plan on reversing a massive plant. The full sprayer will go a loooooong way, and once it's mixed it has a much shorter shelf life. My most recent usage only took 3 applications for a complete reversal, and I collected, vials upon vials, in less than 6 weeks.

Also, the plant will look like it's going to die.
It won't. Well, at least I haven't actually murdered one yet. They looked hideous.
Accept the ugliness.
I have one of Red's kits, just trying to use up what I already had laying around before using his. I've only been mixing half batches also, from the get go. My last reversal, I mixed a half batch and didn't even use it all. So, ya, I'd only do a full batch if I were doing a massive plant, or better yet multiple.

3 sprays and done huh?!? And she stayed a shim the whole time... Didn't try reverting back? Thanks for the insight Chip!?
 

BH

Tha Dank Hoarder
Right!?! I can get away with it, to pretty near death, not much unlike the cuttings I started this thread with. But I just can't keep them happy in solos for long at all. I have a bunch of plants in veg right now that are pissed at me, I'm trying to do better to give them what the need, but it's their fault for taking so damn long to sex too?


if you have a tray under the small plants, fill the medium and let run off 10-15%. I still have 5+ party cup plants sitting in my flower room and they are like 1.5-2 months old easy . cruising

next round do a bunch of 1-3 gal on the flood table, gonna get wild LOL
after thinking about it oh wait I kinda did that besides 3 5 gal LOL
 

horribleherk

home grown
hey mo just spent a good bit of time skimming through this , good interesting stuff here I'm filing a lot of this in my head for future use really like what I'm seeing here when I shut down I jarred up a bunch of welchie -×-citrus milf seeds for when I start back up I'm wanting to do a feminized chuck at some point
 

MO_Grow

Underground Chucker
The lil ones in the small tent
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Instead of hacking the bigger ones in half I used some lst clips to bring them down to match the rest of the canopy level

The big girl
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Time to get bent!
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Gonna have to find her a new home here soon... I've got my eyes set on the closet which should be getting cleared out over the next few days. She'll be dropping the goods real soon!
 

MO_Grow

Underground Chucker
hey mo just spent a good bit of time skimming through this , good interesting stuff here I'm filing a lot of this in my head for future use really like what I'm seeing here when I shut down I jarred up a bunch of welchie -×-citrus milf seeds for when I start back up I'm wanting to do a feminized chuck at some point
What's shaking Herk! It's a learning experience for us all so soak it up bother!! If you ever have any questions, concerns, or what have you, don't be afraid to ask/speak up... I'll do my best?
 

MO_Grow

Underground Chucker
I got a lil aggressive with her last night after the initial bending...

Bent her up (err...more down...lol) so she would fit in the space a lil MO betta
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She's got the closet all to herself now. With a bit of headroom to spare...So ...Let's get it on!!
 

MO_Grow

Underground Chucker
STS is far more effective than collodial silver. I suppose some genetics will respond better than others to reversal.
My last project, I literally had pollen pouring out of the opening pods, untouched, just like an actual male will do.
That was always my understanding and experience too. I've only used STS sprays in my prior reversal attempt and this one .... Both went/are going well...

What you got going?!?
 
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