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Really appreciate everyone chiming in on this. Just need them to get through one reservoir without a blowout. Got the flood pan under and plants are elevated about 18" on vented shelving units.
The regular drip system I would need to rely on a pump and thats what burned me before. Skipping the surge protector could have eliminated total power loss but I guess I'm going a different way now.
The regular drip system I would need to rely on a pump and thats what burned me before. Skipping the surge protector could have eliminated total power loss but I guess I'm going a different way now.
We built a big ass wood frame with pond liner. Can't tell you how many times that saved our ass. Some weird shit can happen in Hydro really quick. Maybe a kiddie pool could work for you too.
I agree with Tex, Red's F&D totes have been solid and virtually maintenance free. I have a mini tote running coco loco right now and it is pretty cool.
I agree with Tex, Red's F&D totes have been solid and virtually maintenance free. I have a mini tote running coco loco right now and it is pretty cool.
spondylogrow
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For frequent power losses, I'd put the pump on an UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply).
The runaway you guys are speaking of, sounds like the same thing that happens when you don't have a vacuum break at the highest point of the supply line. Not sure if the bluemats build vacuum the same way or not. No experience with them. But a small hole in the line, may get the job done.
Fwiw, I keep my flood tray elevated on cement blocks with a catch pan underneath and holes drilled in the tray to allow it to drain through. The concrete mixing tubs will catch a lot of runoff before you have to empty it. Just food for thought. It sounds like you have a plan in motion. I definitely wish you the best, anyway you go about it. No fun losing anything.
The runaway you guys are speaking of, sounds like the same thing that happens when you don't have a vacuum break at the highest point of the supply line. Not sure if the bluemats build vacuum the same way or not. No experience with them. But a small hole in the line, may get the job done.
Fwiw, I keep my flood tray elevated on cement blocks with a catch pan underneath and holes drilled in the tray to allow it to drain through. The concrete mixing tubs will catch a lot of runoff before you have to empty it. Just food for thought. It sounds like you have a plan in motion. I definitely wish you the best, anyway you go about it. No fun losing anything.
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My CO2 is an issue. 2500ppm in my room at ligjts on this morning. Exhaust fan on all night and CO2 burner not even plugged in. Humidity was really high >90 and again C02 at or above 2500ppm. Plugged burner and got this warning light.
Plants were just about dry and ready for water. This has happened before and when I posted about it I got a bunch of puzzeled responses. Anyone ever deal with runaway CO2 levels at night? Have no idea why humidity and CO2 were so high. WTF.
Can plants gass off that much CO2? Even at that my exhaust fan was on.
Plants were just about dry and ready for water. This has happened before and when I posted about it I got a bunch of puzzeled responses. Anyone ever deal with runaway CO2 levels at night? Have no idea why humidity and CO2 were so high. WTF.
Can plants gass off that much CO2? Even at that my exhaust fan was on.
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No burner gets unplugged at lights off because this has happened before and I didnt know why. When I plugged it in this morning warning light lit up at 2500ppm. So no burner and exhaust fan was on all night. Has happened several times too. I dont get it.
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No but may be worth looking around. Baffling to me. Any idea how high CO2 in dark effects plants? I know they prefer oxygen during lights out but how detrimental will the CO2 be? Have 2 exhaust fans so going forward both will be on at night now.
Side note anyone ever think about growing on an air hockey table. Turn it on at lights out with fabric pots. Would give roots lots of airflow and oxygen.
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Luckily room is in a barn so no safety issue there.
That's pretty dang high readings with not being on all night and exhaust fans running.
I'd do as mac had said and check it in other rooms, verify sensor is reading correctly.
SCJedi
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Throw the Blumats manual away. Watch the 90 second YouTube video and use that as a starting point. Soak carrots apart, tap top and bottom together UNDER WATER and make sure ALL air bubbles are out and screw them together while still holding them under water.
Soak your medium to your desired moisture content. (90-100 mbar) Insert carrots into pots. Connect the feed line to your elevated reservoir and open everything wide ass open to fill feeder line.
Starting at the halfway point put in a drain T. Open it up until no air. Then one pot at a time install drippers and dial them all back to a hanging drip. Once done go back to T and drain any air again.
Tips:
As with any large volume of water, have a catchment basin large enough to hold it all. That is always Rule #1.
Complete your setup as early as you can during the day. Come back a few hours later and make sure nothing is running away. A small runaway that is caught early is waaaay better then a full res dump
Soak your medium to your desired moisture content. (90-100 mbar) Insert carrots into pots. Connect the feed line to your elevated reservoir and open everything wide ass open to fill feeder line.
Starting at the halfway point put in a drain T. Open it up until no air. Then one pot at a time install drippers and dial them all back to a hanging drip. Once done go back to T and drain any air again.
Tips:
As with any large volume of water, have a catchment basin large enough to hold it all. That is always Rule #1.
Complete your setup as early as you can during the day. Come back a few hours later and make sure nothing is running away. A small runaway that is caught early is waaaay better then a full res dump
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Eureka!!!
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The soil underneath a house contains carbon dioxide from decaying plants and animals. If the soil was used in farming, it contains fertilizers, manure and other nutrients applied to the soil to increase productivity. Many times farm land is converted into housing developments. When that occurs, the high levels of carbon dioxide can enter the house. The process involves the CO2 gas being drawn out of the soil into the house. The difference in air pressure between the house and the soil causes the house to suck up the carbon dioxide gas from the soil into the home.
I built my room in a barn that was used for decades as a horse barn. Converted a stall into a room. Ran joists and plywood decking about 10" off the ground for my floor. Clearly the exhaust fan is the culprit. All the old horseshit and organic matter(shavings) that had turned to dirt over the years is gassing off and getting sucked up into my room. Weird that its not venting out just as fast though. Tonight no exhaust fans and I'll see where I am tomorrow.
This raised floor also gives me humidity issues (high) all summer. Gets really damp underneath during rain.
Soil
The soil underneath a house contains carbon dioxide from decaying plants and animals. If the soil was used in farming, it contains fertilizers, manure and other nutrients applied to the soil to increase productivity. Many times farm land is converted into housing developments. When that occurs, the high levels of carbon dioxide can enter the house. The process involves the CO2 gas being drawn out of the soil into the house. The difference in air pressure between the house and the soil causes the house to suck up the carbon dioxide gas from the soil into the home.
I built my room in a barn that was used for decades as a horse barn. Converted a stall into a room. Ran joists and plywood decking about 10" off the ground for my floor. Clearly the exhaust fan is the culprit. All the old horseshit and organic matter(shavings) that had turned to dirt over the years is gassing off and getting sucked up into my room. Weird that its not venting out just as fast though. Tonight no exhaust fans and I'll see where I am tomorrow.
This raised floor also gives me humidity issues (high) all summer. Gets really damp underneath during rain.
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I'm still baffled a little on the CO2. Why would ground only gas off at night. Dew? Humidity? When burner is plugged in it definelty has to fire up to maintain levels so ground doesn't influence levels during the day. In summer time I have exhasut fans running 24/7 and even then burner fires up to maintain levels. Only ever experienced those high readings at lights on with exhaust fan and no burner. I dont know.
The floor wasnt built for rhis purpose originally. Was a tool room so its not sealed other then caulking. Vapor barrier would be ideal but would be a major undertaking. The humidity I can manage with a dehumidifier during the months it flares but the CO2 is an issue. I need exhaust fans in the summer.
Dont know if there could be any link but also have central AC directly into space plus run a portable unit during lights on.
macsnax
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Good advice here
