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[Willie]

Thank you Gentlemen for the insight on the variegation topic. Much appreciated.

Everything in the Veg tent is the same-same. The two little Chosen Mango look amazing, and the Pink Lotus just doesn't want to come back out of flower mode.
This was my first attempt at putting a plant into 12/12 for the purpose of sexing, and I have to say that I do not think I am a fan. It just seems to take way too long to switch back to veg, and it is throwing off those weird re-veg type leaves and all. I know it is just a matter of time, and patience, but I'm not digging it. I just read about taking clones and putting them in 12/12 for the purpose of sexing, and that may be my method on the next attempt.

Anywho...
The flower tent is really stinky, I think I need to change the carbon in my filter.
The White Widow is starting to fade hard. Still getting frostier, I think.
I will look at it with a scope today.

Pics taken yesterday, day 57.

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Stay Safe!

Cheers,
WillieP

Don't feel bad about the 12/12 thing. It works for some things but maybe not for a snow lotus cross. I haven't been able to ever reveg one as well as a few other strains. Now, if there is enough material, I put a snip in a glass of water in 12/12.........that has been much better for me. Take a cut for later, throw her into flower as is, she may surprise you

 

[WillieP]

@Frimpong these are the Chosen Mango's thus far. Both really happy and healthy.



@Willie this is the Pink Lotus lady that I've selected.
As I mentioned, I wish I hadn't sexed it in the flower tent.
She's starting to come out of it. I trimmed away a bunch of fan leaves today hoping to get some light to the new growth.
It's not like I need the smoke or anything, I just want to see what this girl is gonna do.




And this is a scope shot of the White Widow from today. She's getting there...

 

[WillieP]

Hey All,
I was hoping to bring down the White Widow last weekend, but it wasn't quite her time.
I'm still really happy with the way it has come out so far.
I have been removing the faded fans as they are yellowing, sort of a trim as you go method. LOL



And these are the new kids on the block, Black Berry Bread!! @Frimpong



Really cool to have some know ??? on deck!

Cheers,
WillieP

 

[WillieP]

What up Gang??
I have looked back through my journal to verify my dates and the info is as follows.
I sent the White Widow and all three Pink Lotus to the flower tent on Dec 6th.
All three Pink Lotus showed as female in 10-12 days. Back in Veg between the 16-18 of Dec.
That means the Pink Lotus I have kept has been back in the Veg tent for 8 weeks now.
This is the current state of her:



She is just now starting to show normal leaf growth. I think it will eventually come out of it, but 8 weeks is way too long to have to wait IMO.
This is my first go at this, and I understand that if you were trying to save a killer pheno of a stain that this may be your only option.
(Referring to re-vegging a plant, which is basically what I ended up doing.)
This was just for the purpose of determining sex, and I don't feel this is a method that I will attempt again.
NOTE: I by no means am I blaming the plant or the genetics. This was my choice to use an unknown (to me) method.
Skunky has some killer looking bud of the strain about to come into harvest. This is all on me, not the plant.

I will experiment with taking clones and placing them in flower to force them to show sex and see if that works out better for me.
Speaking of which, I just took clones of the Chosen Mango. I already know that they are female, but I wanted to practice cloning and wanted to be able to have clones to place in flower to be able to have firsthand experience with that method.




So, on to the White Widow, today is day 68 since the flip to 12/12.

I've stripped the vast majority of the fans, so she is just sorta a bud only type of girl...



Everything seems really dense, even the lowers. Should be a heavy yielder.

Here's some top cola shots:





And a shot using a scope...



I had planned on bringing her down today, and now I'm having second thoughts.
I'm even considering bringing down half of her tomorrow and the waiting a week for the other half.
Just so I can see what kind of difference the added time for ripening would bring to the overall effects of the strain.

Anyone out there have any input on the subject???
I'm going to sleep on this one.
Cheers,
WillieP

 

[Brokehoe]

I just had the same thing go on in my grow. I will not be doing that again either.

I think the correct method is to take a cut and force cut to flower. Then after sex is known trash cuts and unwanted plants of what ever your hunting. Then take new cuts and put the original plant into flower.

Right?

 

[WillieP]

I just had the same thing go on in my grow. I will not be doing that again either.

I think the correct method is to take a cut and force cut to flower. Then after sex is known trash cuts and unwanted plants of what ever your hunting. Then take new cuts and put the original plant into flower.

Right?

I would nod my head to all you said...but with my limited experience, I'm not the guy to be giving advice on the topic.
It all sounds good to me though...
I am in a little different situation, as I can only legally have 5 plants over 5 inches tall.
I will start three reg seeds at a time, then clone all three of them as quickly as possible.
Once the clones show sex, I would cull all the clones and the males.
If there were to be more than one female, I would keep the one I liked the best and hopefully find a home for any others. (I'd have to ax them otherwise)
I have three Black Berry Bread seeds from @Frimpong started, and this is the plan of attack with them.
Fingers crossed. ?

Cheers,
WillieP

 

[Frimpong]

I would nod my head to all you said...but with my limited experience, I'm not the guy to be giving advice on the topic.
It all sounds good to me though...
I am in a little different situation, as I can only legally have 5 plants over 5 inches tall.
I will start three reg seeds at a time, then clone all three of them as quickly as possible.
Once the clones show sex, I would cull all the clones and the males.
If there were to be more than one female, I would keep the one I liked the best and hopefully find a home for any others. (I'd have to ax them otherwise)
I have three Black Berry Bread seeds from @Frimpong started, and this is the plan of attack with them.
Fingers crossed. ?

Cheers,
WillieP

Do the best u can w what u got ?
And man can't wait till see those breads!!

 

[Brokehoe]

I am in a little different situation, as I can only legally have 5 plants over 5 inches tall.

Yep definitely a different situation. ?

 

[Willie]

I just had the same thing go on in my grow. I will not be doing that again either.

I think the correct method is to take a cut and force cut to flower. Then after sex is known trash cuts and unwanted plants of what ever your hunting. Then take new cuts and put the original plant into flower.

Right?

Works for me. The cut that goes into 12/12 just needs to be in a cup of water. It does not have to be rooted. Everytime I go thru this I swear I am gonna plunk down some coin to have the next round tested for sex.........and then I don't and go thru this same issue again, lol But one thing I don't do is put that plant in and expect I can get it out and have it revert to veg. I think it was GPS peacemaker......I got two beauty girls that were wifi leaners, but I found they were girls by putting them in 12/12. I popped them out very fast but those things went auto on me and finished under 20 hrs of light, no stopping them. The weed was good, but I never got clones and the yield meager. Anywho....lesson learned

 

[WillieP]

Works for me. The cut that goes into 12/12 just needs to be in a cup of water. It does not have to be rooted. Everytime I go thru this I swear I am gonna plunk down some coin to have the next round tested for sex.........and then I don't and go thru this same issue again, lol But one thing I don't do is put that plant in and expect I can get it out and have it revert to veg. I think it was GPS peacemaker......I got two beauty girls that were wifi leaners, but I found they were girls by putting them in 12/12. I popped them out very fast but those things went auto on me and finished under 20 hrs of light, no stopping them. The weed was good, but I never got clones and the yield meager. Anywho....lesson learned

Thanks for the wisdom, Willie!
So now you're blowing my mind...
I just took two clones of Chosen Mango, I really didn't need them, but I was trimming up the lowers and those branches were just screaming 'clone us', so I did.
Cloning method:
Cut, place in RO water...Fresh cut, Clonex gel, into rapid rooter, into 2.5-inch pot, water in.
My intent was to let them root and then place them in flower just to see how they react.
But now I learn that they don't have to be rooted to show sex.
I am assuming that the plant you have taken them from would have to be of an age of sexual maturity, correct?
So, if I am getting this right, as soon as a plant in veg starts to have alternating node growth, I can take a cut, place it in water, and put it directly in 12/12, and it will show me sex?
Hope it doesn't sound like I am doubting you, cause I'm not. I'm just shocked that it works like that.
What type of indicators will the plant give to show male of female?
Do females show just pre-flower, or actual pistils?
Does it take about the same amount of time?

Ok, sorry for all the Newb questions.
I will take one of the clones that a just took today and place it into flower.
Then I can watch it for myself and quit geeking out on you.
(Maybe the edible I ate has something to do with it too.)

For real, thanks for that tip.
It will save 10 days of wait from the way I thought it needed to be done.

Cheers,
WillieP

 

[Willie]

Thanks for the wisdom, Willie!
So now you're blowing my mind...
I just took two clones of Chosen Mango, I really didn't need them, but I was trimming up the lowers and those branches were just screaming 'clone us', so I did.
Cloning method:
Cut, place in RO water...Fresh cut, Clonex gel, into rapid rooter, into 2.5-inch pot, water in.
My intent was to let them root and then place them in flower just to see how they react.
But now I learn that they don't have to be rooted to show sex.
I am assuming that the plant you have taken them from would have to be of an age of sexual maturity, correct?
So, if I am getting this right, as soon as a plant in veg starts to have alternating node growth, I can take a cut, place it in water, and put it directly in 12/12, and it will show me sex?
Hope it doesn't sound like I am doubting you, cause I'm not. I'm just shocked that it works like that.
What type of indicators will the plant give to show male of female?
Do females show just pre-flower, or actual pistils?
Does it take about the same amount of time?

Ok, sorry for all the Newb questions.
I will take one of the clones that a just took today and place it into flower.
Then I can watch it for myself and quit geeking out on you.
(Maybe the edible I ate has something to do with it too.)

For real, thanks for that tip.
It will save 10 days of wait from the way I thought it needed to be done.

Cheers,
Willie

Thanks for the wisdom, Willie!
So now you're blowing my mind...
I just took two clones of Chosen Mango, I really didn't need them, but I was trimming up the lowers and those branches were just screaming 'clone us', so I did.
Cloning method:
Cut, place in RO water...Fresh cut, Clonex gel, into rapid rooter, into 2.5-inch pot, water in.
My intent was to let them root and then place them in flower just to see how they react.
But now I learn that they don't have to be rooted to show sex.
I am assuming that the plant you have taken them from would have to be of an age of sexual maturity, correct?
So, if I am getting this right, as soon as a plant in veg starts to have alternating node growth, I can take a cut, place it in water, and put it directly in 12/12, and it will show me sex?
Hope it doesn't sound like I am doubting you, cause I'm not. I'm just shocked that it works like that.
What type of indicators will the plant give to show male of female?
Do females show just pre-flower, or actual pistils?
Does it take about the same amount of time?

Ok, sorry for all the Newb questions.
I will take one of the clones that a just took today and place it into flower.
Then I can watch it for myself and quit geeking out on you.
(Maybe the edible I ate has something to do with it too.)

For real, thanks for that tip.
It will save 10 days of wait from the way I thought it needed to be done.

Cheers,
WillieP

You don't need anything to be mature but it's important to have something cuttable, a few inches long fine. Just put them in water and then into a flower tent and they will show within 7-10 days, maybe 2 weeks. There is a chance they will even root..............but then you'd have to get them out of flower again

 

[WillieP]

What's up all??
So, I just couldn't Ax the Widow yet...
Well, I did take down some of her. I'd guess maybe a sixth of the plant.

I really wanted to get to experience the same plant harvested at different times.
I have read that it can make a profound difference in the effects that you get from it.
I hope to be able to tell a difference in the stuff I took earlier (day 69) and the stuff taken later.
If I take the rest this weekend, it would be either the 75th or 76th day.

These are scope shot from today,



I can defiantly see a big difference in just a few days.

Cheers,
WillieP

 

[MO_Grow]

Looking killer WillieP!?

 

[WillieP]

Hey All,
I followed through as planned in my last post.
I brought down the rest of the WW last weekend.
It had some really nice top colas, and I took it farther into amber than I have in the past.
I'm curious to see what the effects are like.


The BlackBerry Bread are all three looking good.
I up-potted and brought them out of a humidity dome, and they didn't care for that very well, but they are bouncing back.
I'm really happy with the two Chosen Mango's that I have. They both look just like I want them to.
I have a Gelato Auto seedling that was having trouble losing its helmet, but with a little help we are all good now.
The only problem child I have is the Pink Lotus that just does not want to return to Veg. I just don't know how to move forward with this one.
I have more of those seeds, and I am considering just cutting my loses and starting over.
I don't think that taking a clone from her would be helpful, but I'm pretty lost on this one.
And with the mess I've got with her, I don't have any idea what flowering her would do.

I'll get pictures up so you have a clue what I'm talking about.
Cheers All,
WillieP

 

[Willie]

Hey All,
I followed through as planned in my last post.
I brought down the rest of the WW last weekend.
It had some really nice top colas, and I took it farther into amber than I have in the past.
I'm curious to see what the effects are like.
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The BlackBerry Bread are all three looking good.
I up-potted and brought them out of a humidity dome, and they didn't care for that very well, but they are bouncing back.
I'm really happy with the two Chosen Mango's that I have. They both look just like I want them to.
I have a Gelato Auto seedling that was having trouble losing its helmet, but with a little help we are all good now.
The only problem child I have is the Pink Lotus that just does not want to return to Veg. I just don't know how to move forward with this one.
I have more of those seeds, and I am considering just cutting my loses and starting over.
I don't think that taking a clone from her would be helpful, but I'm pretty lost on this one.
And with the mess I've got with her, I don't have any idea what flowering her would do.

I'll get pictures up so you have a clue what I'm talking about.
Cheers All,
WillieP

It depends of course on many things on your end, but here in my crazy op, I would take a cut and toss her into flower. You will get what you get from that and you'll also have a girl cut to go forward with later. It matters what tent real estate is worth too......I know there are space and count issues that come into play, I guess it's up to you to weigh out the time/space/count issues versus just popping a new bean and it's required time frame
1) Take a cut and flower the girl now. You'll get a girl plant going forward and some bud in 60-70 days
or
2) Start a new bean, veg it sex it and if it's a girl and you'll get bud in 95-105 days
or
3) If space or count is critical, take a cut, trash the mom and put something more ready or better suited in the spot

it should have some good roots at this point, you may just get some bud off it Best wishes however you go forward and if you need more beans just holler.

 

[WillieP]

It depends of course on many things on your end, but here in my crazy op, I would take a cut and toss her into flower. You will get what you get from that and you'll also have a girl cut to go forward with later. It matters what tent real estate is worth too......I know there are space and count issues that come into play, I guess it's up to you to weigh out the time/space/count issues versus just popping a new bean and it's required time frame
1) Take a cut and flower the girl now. You'll get a girl plant going forward and some bud in 60-70 days
or
2) Start a new bean, veg it sex it and if it's a girl and you'll get bud in 95-105 days
or
3) If space or count is critical, take a cut, trash the mom and put something more ready or better suited in the spot

it should have some good roots at this point, you may just get some bud off it Best wishes however you go forward and if you need more beans just holler.

Willie,
Thanks for your input. For real!
I thought about it for the last couple of days and have decided to just flower her out as is.
Moved her to the flower tent today.
This plant has reached the point that she is frustrating me, and that is not what I do this for.
If the truth be told, I just don't like to fail.
I am trying to see this as a lesson learned, which in turn will make me a better grower.
What I get is what I get, and if it is something I especially like, I have more seeds.

Cheers,
WillieP

 

[WillieP]

Hey All,
So, today I up potted the Chosen Mango from 2 gallons to 7 gallons. (@Frimpong)
Both plants look really nice, very happy with them, and they have been really easy going to grow so far. Fingers crossed. ?
My veg tent just has 3 - 150-watt 5000k LEDs is it. (Old streetlight fixtures.) But they seem to like it.



I mentioned a couple post ago that the Blackberry Bread plants didn't like a severe change in humidity.
I knew that you should ease plants into such a change, but sometimes I just do dumb stuff anyway.
I did not know how that type of change affected a plant. Now I do. Lesson learned.




All three looked perfect, and now all three have this going on.
I am confident that they will grow out of it.
I also just up potted these too.

And lastly, the Gelato Auto that I had to restart. (@BigPretzel)
I cooked the first seed. (Totally my fault.)
I planted this little girl in a 2" x 2" nursery pot just to get her started.




I guess that is all for now.
Stay Safe and Happy Growing!

Cheers,
WillieP

 

[Ramjet159]

Hey All,
So, today I up potted the Chosen Mango from 2 gallons to 7 gallons. (@Frimpong)
Both plants look really nice, very happy with them, and they have been really easy going to grow so far. Fingers crossed. ?
My veg tent just has 3 - 150-watt 5000k LEDs is it. (Old streetlight fixtures.) But they seem to like it.

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I mentioned a couple post ago that the Blackberry Bread plants didn't like a severe change in humidity.
I knew that you should ease plants into such a change, but sometimes I just do dumb stuff anyway.
I did not know how that type of change affected a plant. Now I do. Lesson learned.

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All three looked perfect, and now all three have this going on.
I am confident that they will grow out of it.
I also just up potted these too.

And lastly, the Gelato Auto that I had to restart. (@BigPretzel)
I cooked the first seed. (Totally my fault.)
I planted this little girl in a 2" x 2" nursery pot just to get her started.

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I guess that is all for now.
Stay Safe and Happy Growing!

Cheers,
WillieP

Your gonna love those Breads . I’m spewing I didn’t take cuttings from mine . Luckily I have a few beans still in hand so next round I’ll know better ?

 

[Frimpong]

Looking great in here @WillieP ???
Me and @GthaEnigma are dying to see those mangoes I am sure .

 

[WillieP]

Hey Gang,
The Chosen Mango are on track. I want to get them a chance to get used to the 7-gallon bags they are in and then I will lollypop under their skirts.
I will want to see them recover from that and then it's off to flower. When the time comes, I would like to harvest one and then wait 2 weeks before harvesting the other.
I have the means of having them tested and I am interested to see the differences in the cannabinoid profile.
I checked the two clones I took from them, and both have rooted. I don't really need the clones, just wanted to practice cloning.

The Blackberry Bread have grown out of the funk caused by my humidity error and look great as well. I just topped all three today.

The Gelato Auto is chugging along. So far, so good.

The Pink Lotus has been a challenge, all brought on by me.
I reached out for help in another thread here:

Open for suggestions...

I could use a little assistance on how to proceed please. This is a Pink Lotus that was sent to the flower tent to force it to show sex, and then put back in Veg after 10 days. She just wouldn't go back to Veg (even after 10 weeks), so now I am just going to flower her out as is. (She's been in...

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Giving her a foliar spray of Cal-Mag, upped the Cal-Mag in the nutrient/water mix, and lowered the PH, along with switching to flower nutes with more K in them.
This plant is sort of a right off, it's just I hate to fail.
This one will go to edibles or hash anyway.
If I like the effects, I have more seeds and can try again, hopefully with better results.
Life is a learning process...
Cheers,
WillieP